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th0ma5onAug 15, 2018

Yes I guess I do read a bunch of non-work stuff, or stuff that may be work someday :P I did re-read Douglas Adams, and I guess I read The Grapes of Wrath, that's within the last decade... I'm sure I've read some New Yorker long pieces, and I guess I do watch a lot of film.

nickbaumanonFeb 11, 2020

I think of Amazon Basics a little more like "buying from the company store" in the book The Grapes of Wrath.

It's an old retail move: a popular SKU is copied by the store to take more margin from its demand. Your suppliers test product viability for you.

thejteamonSep 4, 2017

We need to talk a lot more about fiction.

The Little Engine That Could and The Grapes of Wrath are good and all...

herghostonMar 29, 2020

Steinbeck: The Grapes of Wrath - really spoke to me about what 'poverty' means and how it affects people and perceptions of people.

Hemingway: The Old Man and the Sea - a gorgeous tale that brings to life the beauty of struggle and suffering.

jammygitonMay 26, 2019

An aside: I highly recommend reading the grapes of wrath

manofmanysmilesonJuly 20, 2018

I hate being the guy that suggests a book as part of a debate, but have you read The Grapes of Wrath? Among other things, it shows in wrenching emotional details what can happen without minimum wages when people are desperate.

Also, do you think humans (in an economy or not) always act rationally?

mohsenonNov 5, 2010

The Grapes of Wrath by Steinbeck. Long past due.

Edit: I'm also reading this book called "Hold Nothing Back" by Mike Jones, it was gift from a good friend of mine.

btw kudos on an awesome question

ojbyrneonAug 19, 2010

I read Atlas Shrugged and immediately followed it by (re)reading The Grapes of Wrath. Both are horribly doctrinaire (with opposing viewpoints), so it made for an interesting contrast. Steinbeck can at least put a sentence together.

ojbyrneonApr 3, 2009

Of course you mean everyone you know who actually liked the book. I didn't much like it, I like style, and there wasn't much of that. And, of course, I read "The Grapes of Wrath" right before - two polemics from opposite points of the political spectrum, but Steinbeck can actually compose a sentence.

garnerwoodsonDec 17, 2008

Usually I will find out what book famous people has read, what are their favorite books, hope that any book which bring influence on them, will bring good influence on me too.. also, as famous n successful people combined with their experience, I'm sure they have better taste on their choice too.

Stephen King's Favorite:
This Book Will Save Your Life by A. M. Homes
Saturday by Ian McEwan
The Mad Cook of Pymatuning: A Novel by Christopher Lehmann-Haupt
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson
The Tenderness of Wolves: A Novel by Stef Penney
When Will There Be Good News?: A Novel by Kate Atkinson

J.K. Rowling's Favorite:
The Five Red Herrings by Dorothy L. Sayers
I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith
Skellig by David Almond
The Woman Who Walked into Doors by Roddy Doyle

Jeffrey Eugenides, author, Pulitzer prize winner
"Herzog," by Saul Bellow
"Love in a Fallen City," by Eileen Chang
"The Lay of the Land," by Richard Ford

Oprah Winfrey's Favorite:
White Oleander by Janet Fitch
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith
The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

For complete list visit http://www.famouspal.com

therealdrag0onDec 8, 2014

This is what I thought about posting. I've read a lot of books this year (45 books totaling 22,000 pages), the most important being: History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Silent Spring, The Feminine Mystique, The Grapes of Wrath, The Price of Inequality, The Happiness Hypothesis.

But, out of all that (which I had to go look up on my Goodreads), HPMOR is what came to mind, both an engaging story, thought provoking ideas, and a lot of pages to work with :).

lsconNov 6, 2018

When I am at a loss for something to read and I want something that is usually a low-effort but very good read, i throw darts at the Pulitzer for fiction list.

I'm reading Greer's "Less" today, the most recent winner, and it is really pretty great.

If you haven't read Hemingway, "The Old Man and the Sea" is a pretty good starting point.

If you are into post-apocalyptic fiction at all, you need to read McCarthy's "The Road"

(Note, if you want Steinbeck - personally, I liked 'Of Mice and Men' a lot more than "The Grapes of Wrath" but both are good. Just saying I don't always side with the committee)

I mean, we can argue all day about what the best book is, but everything on that list is going to be both very good and usually quite accessible; you will note that Joyce is conspicuously absent, and a few of these are assigned reading in high school.

If you want to read stuff before that (and get free books from gutenberg!) I recommend you check out Mark Twain and Joseph Conrad. Both are excellent. "The end of his tether" is my favorite Conrad. "Roughing it" is my favorite Twain.

dasbothonApr 9, 2015

I like how most people here have a fiction and non-fiction book on the go at the same time. Not just me then :)

Currently reading The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck, after finishing East of Eden, which I loved. On the non-fiction front I'm reading Big Data by Kenneth Cukier and Viktor Mayer-Schönberger and Wherever You Go, There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn. Both interesting and compelling in their own ways.

robbrown451onDec 5, 2019

I agree with you...I have long been saying that intellectual property (and that includes software) is going to either be subject to artificial scarcity (to me, the biggest evil * ), or horrible funding models like advertising.

Public funding makes a ton of sense, personally I think it is the only economically efficient solution, but doing it well is hard. I scanned your history here to see a bit more on where you are coming from (I agree with you on a lot of things), and I see that this is something you talk about a lot.

I notice you say elsewhere "the enemy is the state". That makes it tricky to say "the state should decide what stuff gets funded." I always tend to be up against that whenever I suggest that state funded IP makes sense. I still believe there is a way.

I have more thoughts on how we could actually move toward such things, my contact info is in my profile, feel free to email.

* see chapter 25 of the Grapes of Wrath for a beautifully written essay on the evils of artificial scarcity: https://genius.com/John-steinbeck-grapes-of-wrath-chapter-25...

jlangenaueronDec 25, 2012

Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofsteder. Barely needs any introduction here, but the depth of thought is just staggering.

Lights Out in Wonderland by D.B.C. Pierre. A wonderful story with a few incidental observations about modern society.

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck. Sure, you can read about people who've made everything, but what about people who lose everything. Absolutely everything. Shattering, tragic fiction.

skadamouonAug 24, 2019

I am inclined to agree with the sentiment of your post as I also enjoy reading. At the same time however, I'm not sure I could provide a summary of the themes from The Grapes of Wrath as the author suggests even though I've read that book in the last 10 years.

What exactly do you mean by being an attentive reader and how do you go about training this skill? I read a lot and feel like I understand most of what I'm reading but it doesn't seem like most of it sticks for more than a year or two (if that).

crooked-vonJune 9, 2021

If the survival of a single person is "high stakes" in fiction, then what do you even consider "low stakes"?

> I admit I'm limited to the sample I've experienced personally but it's over 90%.

You need to read a wider selection of books, then. Try, say, The Great Gatsby, Pride and Prejudice, Of Mice and Men, Frankenstein, Jane Eyre, A Christmas Carol, The Grapes of Wrath, The Time Machine, Dune, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the Foundation series, anything by Ray Bradbury... there's a very long list of books that are not driven by simplistic good vs. evil conflicts.

dirkthemanonApr 22, 2014

I'm re-reading all the classics they made you read in high school. Melville, Darwin, Machiavelli, Kafka, Camus, Kant, you name it. At the time, I didn't realize why they were so highly regarded. Now that my mind matured somewhat I'm beginning to see.

A good example of this is The Grapes of Wrath by Steinbeck. I read it a good 20 years ago as part of an English literature assignment. It wasn't too hard to read, but I didn't think much of it at the time. I re-read it last year, and was blown away, not only because I read a lot more on the Great Depression/Dust Bowl period, but also because of the writing style of Steinbeck. Hemingway: the same. The tone, the rhythm, the choice of words... pure art. Like this gem from The Great Gatsby (it's about turning 30): "Thirty: the promise of a decade of loneliness, a thinning list of single men to know, a thinning brief-case of enthousiasm, thinning hair". One sentence, perfectly describing the anxiety of turning 30... I could go on forever, but all I want to say is: don't forget the classics!

shreyanshdonDec 12, 2018

  East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
Cannery Row - John Steinbeck
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor E. Frankl
Deep Work - Cal Newport
The Little Prince - Antoine de Saint
The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck - Mark Manson
Flowers for Algernon - Daniel Keyes
Notes to Myself: My Struggle to Become a Person - Hugh Prather
Tuesdays with Morrie - Mitch Albom
I Heart Logs: Event Data, Stream Processing, and Data Integration - Jay Kreps
Kafka: The Definitive Guide - Neha Narkhede
Effective Java - Joshua Bloch
Algorithms - Robert Sedgewick, Kevin Wayne

ryanwaggoneronJan 8, 2010

Yeah, all those damn authors who wasted their lives writing supposedly great works of fiction like Ulysses and The Grapes of Wrath and A Tale of Two Cities. They should have been digging ditches in Africa or volunteering at their local soup kitchen or whatever.

Give me a break. You think the world is really better served by you giving up on your dreams? It's a good thing not everything felt as you did or the world would be pretty bleak indeed.

xyzzyzonNov 27, 2020

People were able to afford food in 1950, when wages were lower and poverty was rampant.

I recommend rereading “The Grapes of Wrath”, to get a taste of what poverty in this country had actually looked like, and what it actually was like to not be able to afford food. Then compare that with what currently passes as “poverty”: you get much more than that already on SNAP benefits.

I am very sympathetic to people in poverty, having grown up in it. However, let’s not pretend that poverty in today’s America is about “affording food”: everyone, no matter how poor, is able to afford food, and poverty today is less about the hunger, and more about the lifestyle you can or are forced to carry out.

shantlyonDec 14, 2019

It’s kinda the title feature of Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath.

roymurdockonMay 25, 2016

I'm reading two books right now. The Rise and Fall of American Growth [1] by Robert Gordon and The Grapes of Wrath [2] by John Steinbeck. They complement each other, and this post, very well.

I would recommend Gordon's book as an objective overview of the astonishing growth in economic and quality of life terms from 1870-1970. It's not as thoroughly researched as I expected it to be, and the prose is somewhat clunky, but it's a good lesson in the history of technology that we take for granted nonetheless.

Steinbeck's tale of the banks/landowners displacing poor, rural farming families is also extremely pertinent in light of this post. Car dealers extract value from the fleeing, unnecessariat farmers in "Grapes", while insurance companies/debtors prisons extract value from the unnecessariat rural poor chronicled in this post. The promised land of "Grapes" (California) continues to be successful today, with the coasts accreting a large portion of the nation's wealth. It's also just a beautifully written and thoroughly considered (to the point of seeming spontaneous) piece of art.

I am waiting for the next paradigm shifting technology with bated breath.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-American-Growth-Princeton/dp...

[2] http://www.amazon.com/Grapes-Wrath-John-Steinbeck/dp/0143039...

yodsanklaionSep 2, 2017

1984. A very powerful book. It really made a strong impression on me and definitely changed my views on politics, propaganda, governments and so on.

Capitalism and freedom. Helped me to understand capitalism and American right-wing ideology.

The grapes of wrath. Actually, I haven't read the book, only watched the movie. It puts into perspective what we see happening with refugees in Europe.

throwaway83291onAug 15, 2021

Anyone reminded of Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath?

According to Wikipedia [0], the eponymous expression occurs in Chapter 25, "which describes the purposeful destruction of food to keep the price high:"

> [A]nd in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grapes_of_Wrath

tmm84onJan 20, 2021

My high school had it as required reading (over summer vacation). I was never a big reader to begin with so this book along with others (Jude the Obscure, A Separate Peace) have always been in a bad light for me in my mind (I guess having a book that I would tested and grilled over first thing in the school year does that). However, as an adult I found reading books such as IT, Silence of the Lambs and The Grapes of Wrath really entertaining. When I have some time I think I'll give this classic another try.

thaumaturgyonMay 16, 2008

Yay, I'm going to model my library after someone else's opinion of what I ought to read! Literature ought to be a popularity contest!

I think I've read over half of the volumes mentioned there, and disliked a lot of them. I thought "The Grapes of Wrath" was awful, and never did figure out why anybody was ever impressed by "The Catcher In The Rye". To me, both of those were good examples of books that people read because other people read them, and nobody can really describe why they're so profound, but since everybody else has read them, they must be. And, among all these "profound" works, they included "Into Thin Air". I enjoyed it, and I used to be a climber, but what's it doing on that list?

Then, there are the many titles not found on the list. How about "The Decameron", for one? "Pale Blue Dot"? "A Brief History of Time"? "Cosmos"? "The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam"?

And, I'd argue that reading should be done as much for enjoyment as for edification. So, why not some "Calvin and Hobbes"? Or "Words I Wish I Wrote"? Or some Neil Gaiman or Greg Bear or George RR Martin?

I'm not ranting at you; I agree with you 100%. Your comment just seemed like an appropriate place to attach a rant against the article. :-)

b3moralesonMay 23, 2021

This is oversimplifying in the opposite direction in my opinion. The important thing is not the letters, it's how they manifest -- the way they're interpreted as instructions. So the objection is to taking a paragraph of Ulysses and putting it into The Grapes of Wrath. Or even better, selecting a step from the middle of How to Build a Birdhouse and inserting it into the directions for crocheting a tea cozy.

If properly chosen, it could certainly have a beneficial effect. But DNA is also a much more complex system than a book.

gioeleonMay 12, 2012

Have you a problem with Bulgarian people or Bulgarian criminals?

If you have a problem with Bulgarian people in general, then, well, that is called xenophobia or more simply racism.

If you have a problem with Bulgarian criminals, then complain to your police force. How come you able to spot such criminals so easily while they cannot? Did you make precise and detailed reports to the police about cases you witnessed, experienced personally or know from local hearsay?

Talking about apartments, do you agree on the principle that access to public housing should be given to those most in need? Do you also agree on the principle that the needs for every lawful person should be addressed regardless of their country of origin? If you do, what is the problem them? If you do not, why?

Question for the US readers: do scenes like those depicted in Steinbeck's novel The grapes of wrath still happen? Are people from rural zones like Oklahoma's countryside treated as filthy dangerous foreigners in California? Because that is what we are seeing and experiencing right now in the EU.

red_admiralonOct 7, 2018

This is how a lot of the world used to work (ok, minus the wi-fi, and the accomodation was even more basic). Unskilled laborers and anyone else out of a job would move around, taking jobs as and when they were needed and often living "on site" for a while. Much of the work was seasonal such as harvesting, although some places like dockyards and coal mines you could turn up and work by the day or week most of the year. No such thing as benefits if you fell ill, of course.

Here's an article about hops pickers in England [1] and the related Wikipedia article [2]. I also recommend Steinbeck's "The Grapes of Wrath".

[1] https://mashable.com/2017/06/03/hop-pickers
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopper_hut

dredmorbiusonNov 13, 2019

The usual mechanisms are the historic threats to mankind: famine, pestilance, war, disorder.

Depending on the timeline for achieving a 2-3B population, any period of less than ~100 years is not attainable without a huge increase in mortality. That's shown in numerous models suggested by the 1970 Limits to Growth project.

In pre-industrial times, and as recently as 1850s Ireland, massive population declines in regional areas were fairly commonplace. The Irish Potato Famine, through direct mortality and emigration, reduced the population of Ireland from 8 million to 4, over a period of 60 years:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)#/medi...

Ireland has still not regained its 1850 population peak.

Note too that Ireland's population had increased tremendously from the 3 millions of 1740. The potato primed the trap the blight triggered.

There were numerous other notable famines in the 19th century, several in China, then as Ireland under strong British influence. These continued through the 20th century, including in both Nationalist and Communist regimes. The Ukranian Holdomor struck at the same time as famines elsewhere in the world, and was somewhat contemporaneous with the Dust Bowl in the US, a localised famine, in which there was some starvation, though largely manifested as a massive internal migration (see especially Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath).

The people who realise this is a potential path are largely wholly aware of just how horrific the prospect is, both in direct misery and the all-but-certain breakdown of all social, governmental, commercial, and technical institutions. While there are some who embrace this, they tend to be extreme outliers.

Most see this as the scenario to avoid at all costs.

caffeinewriteronOct 22, 2020

Alright, since linking the entirety of title 17 isn't exactly easy to refer to as a source, the relevant part is 17 USC 203.^1

It's probably one of the more complex parts of copyright law. There's a few well-known cases of section 203 being used to claw back copyright decades down the line. (Note: I'm am very much not a lawyer)

In 1938, John Steinbeck granted Viking Press rights to publish 13 of his works, including Of Mice And Men, The Grapes of Wrath, and Tortilla Flats, as long as they were kept in print and for sale. In 2005, John Steinbeck's son and granddaughter served notice to Penguin Publishing, who were the interested party at the time, that they were terminating the agreement.^2

This section was originally designed to give artists who may have essentially (or even literally) given away their rights due to inequitable bargaining power a chance to recoup their property down the line with at least several years notice that they are planning on terminating the agreement.^3 In practice, however, it's kind of a mess, and to say that it would allow an artist or their heirs to terminate a grant to the public domain is dubious. It's something that would likely see its way to the supreme court should it ever come to pass.

I've included a couple other articles here just in the general interest of providing more info.^4^5

[1]: https://www.copyright.gov/docs/203.html

[2]: http://billgablelaw.com/sites/law/files/TakingItBack.pdf

[3]: https://abovethelaw.com/2019/05/terminators-mount-up-section...

[4]: https://media2.mofo.com/documents/190700-all-shook-up.pdf

[5]: https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Case_Law

sdfinonSep 2, 2017

'I Am That' by Nisargadatta Maharaj

'The First and Last Freedom' by J. Krishnamurti: Mainly because of what he says regarding Free Will. Later I read 'Free Will' by Sam Harris, and I think Sam explains the same idea in more detail.
Citing 'The First and Last Freedom': "Thought is nothing else but reaction; thought is not creative."

'The Grapes of Wrath' by John Steinbeck

'The Little Prince' by A.S.Exupery: when I was a child it made me reflect about society.

nicwolffonApr 16, 2020

Meanwhile:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/business/coronavirus-dest...

> In Wisconsin and Ohio, farmers are dumping thousands of gallons of fresh milk into lagoons and manure pits. An Idaho farmer has dug huge ditches to bury 1 million pounds of onions. And in South Florida, a region that supplies much of the Eastern half of the United States with produce, tractors are crisscrossing bean and cabbage fields, plowing perfectly ripe vegetables back into the soil.

which brings to mind John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath:

> The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

0xbearonOct 9, 2017

Of course all of these robots will cost jobs. I’m reading “The Grapes of Wrath” right now, and it all happened before, except back then it was not robots, but tractors. Lots of people were flung into direst poverty imaginable, some died, some saw their kids die of malnutrition, which, IMO, is worse. It’ll be the exact same shit this time around except a lot more people will be affected, but fewer will die.

tokenadultonApr 20, 2014

[Basis of knowledge here: descent from a large extended family of dry-land farmers who lived on the Great Plains during the Great Depression in the United States. And, yes, I have read the novel The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck, which is required reading in many United States schools.] No, the situations in the two countries were not at all comparable. First of all, there was no widespread famine in the United States. I have close relatives who lived through that era in that place (they never moved from their family farms) and are now more than ninety years old. Second, there was no governmental effort to keep the people who thought they were best off moving from moving. Third, both before and after the interstate moves, most of the people who moved were land-owners. Fourth (maybe this should be first on the list), all of the adults in the United States during the Great Depression, other than most black people in the South, were voters and able to influence the political system. Just outside the region I wrote about first here, the region you mentioned first, were grassroots political movements to represent farmer rights. (Nothing of the kind existed under Stalin's dictatorship.) Here in Minnesota, the state branch of the Democratic Party is actually formally named the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, having been formed by a merger (just about exactly seventy years ago) between the state Democratic Party and the Farmer-Labor Party, a third-party movement so powerful that it elected a governor during its heyday.

So, no, in the United States we look at the historical experience of Stalinism as a wholly negative example, one of the worst examples of mass irrationality and needless human suffering in the twentieth century. Where the various branches of my family have lived for generations, we know better than to take Stalin's policies as models of modernization or anything worthwhile.

rfurmanionApr 29, 2009

Plus he thinks at the end that he can write "as Steinbeck did in The Grapes of Wrath" and is surprised that his book was considered "apprentice-level work", because he spent three years working on it, never mind the fact that real writers spent many years and had many false starts while honing their skills (10 years or 10000 hours to master something, supposedly)

queseraonDec 31, 2020

I swore off John Steinbeck when I was in high school, after having a visceral dislike for The Grapes of Wrath.

Then a few months ago, I read an interesting quote here on HN -- I traced it back to Steinbeck's East of Eden, so I decided to give it a try.

I really truly deeply enjoyed the book. I hesitate to add books to a "favorites of all time" list until at least several months after reading, but it's a definite contender.

As for the different experiences between GoW and EoE, I have to assume that the inconsistency of the reader has a lot to do with it.

So, +1 on the Steinbeck recommendation. And gratitude to the lost-attribution commenter who quoted him!

Hemingway waits patiently on my TODO list.

techopolyonFeb 26, 2020

In my opinion, Stephen King might be the best English language novelist since the mid 1950s or so. I think people mostly look down on him because he's generally identified with horror, which is of course his typical genre -- but his work transcends the genre and is deeply literary.

Carrie should be on the bookshelf next to other somewhat recent masterpieces like the Grapes of Wrath, Invisible Man (Ellison's), Lord of the Flies, the Great Gatsby, and Ulysses.

osipovonApr 20, 2014

Have you ever read "The Grapes of Wrath"? Did Stalin cause the famine in the United States? It is purposeful selective attention to call out the terrible famine in the Ukraine in the 1930. My ancestors died of the same famine in Russia and I know of many Russians who lost members of their family to hunger in 1930s. There was a widespread famine at the time, caused by collectivization and industrialization policies to migrate from inefficient, low capital, individual-based farming practices to highly efficient, large scale, high capital practices. In Soviet Union it was an inhumane, ruthless collectivization. In United States it was a bit more humane, financial capital driven policy of moving individual farmers off their land. In both cases, there was no nationalistic or genocidal component. Attempts to portray the famine as targeted at Ukranians serves no purpose other than to divide Russians and Ukrainians and pit them against each other. Recent events in Ukraine show that this is exactly the policy of the United States.

onreact-comonAug 11, 2009

When zero tolerance was hailed by "scientists" showing off the "smashed window theory" and proving it by smashing windows poverty was just for the fringe groups. The "blacks", Latinos or other people generally discriminated against in the US. Now that the middle class descends into poverty rapidly the NYT starts to care?

Zero tolerance means a war on the poor. Like the "war on terror" or "the war on drugs" it does not solve the problem at all.

Poverty is always relative. You can be poor with the same amount of money the next guy is still OK with. Poverty depends largely on sociological factors. People who are embedded in some kind of social order, who partake in society, are respected and have human relations to other people aren't as poor as those who are isolated, spat upon and criminalized.

I'd recommend reading The Grapes of Wrath, one of the greatest works of American literature and written during the Great Depression for some solutions.

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