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balls187onNov 21, 2019

I fell in love with Vonnegut when I was in college.

A friend recommended Catcher in the Rye, but it didn't appeal to me, so he suggested Cat's Cradle.

After that I went on a binge.

I know Slaughterhouse-5 gets all the accolades, but for me Breakfast of Champions is my all time favorite novel.

bgrohmanonAug 4, 2010

I haven't read Breakfast of Champions yet, but it's on my list. The Sirens of Titan is also a good one.

mattmichielsenonAug 4, 2010

I read Breakfast of Champions a while ago and really enjoyed it. I'll have to check that one out.

aorshanonFeb 28, 2012

If you haven't read a Kurt Vonnegut book, I highly recommend that you do. The Sirens of Titan, Mother Night, Breakfast of Champions, and Slaughterhouse 5 are all great places to start.

enedilonApr 9, 2015

Some interesting books by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.:
Breakfast of Champions
Bluebeard
Deadeye Dick

sleepydogonFeb 9, 2017

I second this. I've read a lot of his books, with Breakfast of Champions being my current favorite, but I'm halfway through Mother Night and I gotta say it's my new favorite.

abvdaskeronFeb 10, 2017

Breakfast of Champions if you want to read something outrageously funny and a little bit sad.

nemo44xonApr 30, 2021

Yeah “Player Piano” was a good read. I don’t think I really 100% got it when I was 15 but it rings true today still. Might reread it - building a collection of novels for my son in case I die early. And that’s one (as well as “Breakfast of Champions” and “Slaughterhouse 5”) from KV he should read.

twogonDec 12, 2018

Vonnegut is the author that I wish I was, and was a major influence on my reading, thinking and creating. Strongly recommend picking up a few of his novels, you wont be able to put them down. My favorites are Slaughterhouse Five, Cats Cradle, Breakfast of Champions and God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater

HovertruckonOct 3, 2010

I thought Slaughterhouse Five was great, but I think I found myself left thinking more after reading Breakfast of Champions.

blakewebonSep 14, 2010

Breakfast of Champions. Just open the first pages and you'll see it all over.

MarcScottonNov 18, 2015

The prose remind me of the writings of Kurt Vonnegut, particularly of Breakfast of Champions.

jlkonMar 22, 2008

Ulysses by James Joyce
Code Complete by Steve McConnell
Walden by Henry David Thoreau
Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Watermelon Sugar by Richard Brautigan
Murphy by Samuel Beckett
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon

bhermsonOct 3, 2010

Really? I've read both (along with several other Vonnegut books), and I thought S5 was much more though provoking. Given how quickly his books read, I might have to reread Breakfast of Champions.

okareamanonNov 21, 2019

I read his books as a youth and enjoyed the stories. I re-read his books as a 60 yr old because they were very popular in the book bins scattered around the VA hospital I was at. This time I enjoyed the man and author. Some trivia: I always thought Tom Waits was clever to come up with the line "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King" but that came from Vonnegut in "Player "Piano. I especially appreciated "Breakfast of Champions" because he inserted himself into the book as a character and stated that writing the book prevented him from killing himself like his mother. It helped me not kill myself as well.

okareamanonMay 12, 2021

Yes, we have become very efficient in doing things. What we are doing, we have become so efficient in doing that we don’t need any awareness to do it. It has become mechanical, automatic. We function like robots. We are not men yet; we are machines. That’s what George Gurdjieff used to say again and again, that man as he exists is a machine. He offended many people, because nobody likes to be called a machine. Machines like to be called gods; then they feel very happy, puffed up. Gurdjieff used to call people machines, and he was right. If you watch yourself you will know how mechanically you behave.

http://www.pomyc.org/blog-details/55

The exact quote by Gurdjieff is worth reading.

Kurt Vonnegut's "Breakfast of Champions" dealt with this theme in an extraordinary way. He created a character who was going mad because he felt he was living among robots. At last, his character finds an artist that had a "light" in him, a soul, and the character decides everything is ok. At this point Kurt Vonnegut inserts himself into the narrative (which struck me as extraordinary) and says that he decided not to kill himself because he wrote this story (his mother committed suicide.) This book also helped me become more self-aware.

mrslaveonDec 6, 2020

Thanks for this. I got lucky and read Breakfast of Champions first while on holiday one summer with extended family and it was hilarious indeed. Then I swapped it off the shelf for Slaughterhouse Five and just could not get it started. When I revisit Vonnegut I'll give Cat's Cradle a try.

As for sibling post, strong disagree WRT Douglas Adams. ducks. Unpopular opinion, I know, but your description of Vonnegut is curiously similar to how I might describe Adams. His supporters are enthusiastic and vocal. I wonder how large the group of silent dissenters is?

randycupertinoonDec 18, 2020

One of my quarantine projects was to read more great literature. I'd always joked that I'd be happy being in jail as long as I could read all the books I've ever wanted to read. Figured this was a good chance to put my money where my mouth is. Haven't gotten to Anna Karenina yet but did finish the Brothers Karamazov, The Winter of Our Discontent, Moby Dick, Lolita, East of Eden, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Breakfast of Champions and The Idiot.

amongwhalesonDec 6, 2020

A high school English teacher spoiled me by having us read Cat's Cradle instead of the more common/historical Slaughterhouse Five. Great kickoff to a lifelong love of his satire.
Cat's Cradle shows both the horror and absurdity of Nuclear War. It's unbelievable to imagine losing all the world's water and yet anyone can fathom how actually horrific it would be. This is Vonnegut's gift. Hard to imagine another write who can make you feel knowledgeable and challenged but also doesn't require some deep subject/stylistic knowledge of the allegories to be in on the joke.
Breakfast of Champions is also a must read. No book has ever made me laugh out loud both at the deadpan delivery and absurdity.

fogusonDec 6, 2010

Breakfast of Champions by Vonnegut. I've read a ton of books in my life, but for some reason never took the plunge into Vonnegut. I was utterly awe struck by this book. I think every person has a small list of things that they wish that they had created (well, the ability to create them that is). Breakfast of Champions immediately found its way onto my list. The only problem is that such a book makes me embarrassed to have the audacity to ever put pen to paper (or fingers to M-x as it were). I'll keep trying though.

WorldMakeronNov 21, 2019

Timequake is one of the few I haven't read more than once, but also one of the ones I would most like to revisit, now that I think on it. I had the feeling that it would "settle". I remember feeling that it was disappointing when it was the newest and latest after years-ish of waiting. Now that there are no others and the context is reduced/simpler, and the expectations appropriately tempered, I've got this weird feeling that I'd like it a lot more in rereading it now, and this sense that there was at least one theme I missed that first time.

(Doesn't help that I'm also in that team of people with a strange disjoint out-of-time relationship to Vonnegut's novels having read Breakfast of Champions to early to understand most of it, and wandered the rest of the catalog randomly via my parents library and then the actual library as I grew older. Timequake was the only one released in a time where I was able to anticipate it, and given opportunity to hype it so much in my own head.)

sshineonSep 5, 2015

Just finished:

— Roadside Picnic, by the Strugatsky brothers. The very thematic Soviet sci-fi behind STALKER.

— The Cyberiad, by Stanislaw Lem. A brilliant collection of short stories on language, philosophy, futurism.

Currently:

— Nexus, by Ramez Naam (book 1 of 3). Nanobots meet augmented reality, transhumanism. Good.

Breakfast of Champions, by Kurt Vonnegut. Hilarious stuff.

— Poe's collected works.

Next:

— The Three-Body Problem, by Cixin Liu. I have my hopes high.

karatestomponMar 29, 2020

That and Deadeye Dick are the two outside his big, famous works (Slaughterhouse 5 and Cat’s Cradle being the big two, followed probably by Breakfast of Champions) that I like best. Bluebeard in particular manages to cover most of the themes and ideas from the rest of his books all in one, which doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better than the rest but does make it interesting.

eyeundersandonNov 1, 2019

I'm not OP but let me take this opportunity to recommend Fyodor Dostoevsky. I started with The Brothers Karamazov when I was fresh out of high school and struggling with identity (coming from a traditional Hindu society in Nepal). It has helped me immensely and I consider it to be one of the best most comprehensive and educational books I have ever read.

(If it helps anyone, Kurt Vonnegut, who wrote Slaughterhouse Five and Breakfast of Champions is a big fan of Dostoevsky and recommends his works in multiple writings.)

/$0.02

ragelinkonJan 26, 2018

- A day in the life of Ivan Denisovich - aleksandr solzhenitsyn
- Breakfast of champions - Kurt Vonnegut
- Plato's the republic
- The unfettered mind - Takuan Soho

yesenadamonJan 9, 2019

I love that (well, and Breakfast of Champions) so much I could never get into his other novels much, because they're not them. Sirens was the first novel that I really connected with. I've read it so many times. "It flung them like stones." Ha, come to think of it, I was in a band called The Ghosts of Saturn, my brother was in one called CSI (ChronoSynclastic Infundibulum).. Isn't there supposed to be a movie coming out soon?

Once years ago I was in a 2nd hand bookshop in Sydney, and could hear a few staff members chatting excitedly in a back room. They were laughing over plot-points in Sirens! I listened for a long while, without revealing my presence. It was glorious. :-)

It just occurred to me to recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it the movie Gentlemen Broncos. I hadn't associated that and Sirens before, but there are many similarities. It's totally sci-fi, totally hilarious, and has a kind of Vonnegutian sugar-coated melancholy too. 5 stars!

jerryaonNov 23, 2012

Interesting article, and a terrible headline in the Times about it. It's not Neuroscience: Under Attack, it's Pop Neuroscience: Under Attack, and it's under attack by scientists.

It's also part of a fad of how science works or is absorbed in culture.

Here's the Times in 1973, reviewing Kurt Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions, in which the antagonist, Dwayne Hoover's actions are caused by the bad chemicals in his system.

Is Kurt Vonnegut Kidding Us?

http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/09/28/lifetimes/vonnegut-bre...

In 1973 it was chemistry. In 2013 it's neuroscience.

omarantoonOct 23, 2016

Which of his novels have you read? Have you read Slaughterhouse-Five, Deadeye Dick or Breakfast of Champions?

scrameonAug 7, 2010

Gödel, Escher, Bach is one of the most beautifully bizarre, transcendent creations I have ever come across. I wish every computer programmer that I ever heard say something silly like "I don't like art", or "I don't read that much" could be exposed to it. There is nothing so humbling as getting your ass kicked by 800 pages of a guy trying to explain an idea in the simplest terms he can.

The only things that I can compare it to are more literary, but "Breakfast of Champions", "Foucalts Pendulum" or "Infinite Jest", aren't out of order.

They are all products of brilliant, obsessive, minds making a concerted effort to explain what they can see above the clouds.

As much intellectual ego that gets bandied about between computer programmers, its nice to keep a humbling base where you can actually see that no matter how smart you think you are, that there are people who are way way way smarter than you and actually have the dedication, skill and expertise to try to help you understand what they have spent their life learning.

swengwonDec 22, 2016

Most recommended:

- Ted Chiang - Stories of Your Life and Others.

- Lawrence Weschler - Seeing is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Sees. A quality biography of Robert Irwin based on interviews over decades, and helps you learn to appreciate minimalist art to boot.

- Jane Austen - Pride and Prejudice

- Kurt Vonnegut - Breakfast of Champions

- Burton G. Malkiel - A Random Walk Down Wall Street

- Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie - Americanah. Saw myself in several of these characters

- Nikos Kazantzakis - Zorba the Greek

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Also good:

- Jack London - John Barleycorn: Alcoholic Memoirs. Illustrates all of the interesting ways in which a person is tempted to drink: when someone else buys you one, when it's cold outside, ...

- Danny Bowien - The Mission Chinese Food Cookbook. Lots of stories between the recipes.

- David Byrne - How Music Works

- Meg Jay - The Defining Decade

- Ernest Hemingway - A Moveable Feast

- Magdalena Droste - Bauhaus 1919-1933

- Arimasa Osawa - Shinjuku Shark

- Zadie Smith - Changing My Mind

- Chinua Achebe - Things Fall Apart

- Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray

- Marie Kondo - The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up

- Haruki Murakami - The Strange Library. A fifteen minute read.

- Tim Ferriss - The Four-Hour Workweek. Good tactics for saving time; bad business advice.

- Kurt Vonnegut - Cat's Cradle

- John Berger - Ways of Seeing

dfxm12onMar 26, 2021

Fiction, yes. I've recently read and recommend Hardboiled Wonderland and the End of the World by Haruki Murakami (which in a way is a blend of sci fi and fantasy), Cannery Row by John Steinbeck, and Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut.

On Deck, I have Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy, Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino.

hirundoonNov 21, 2019

Meanwhile, the world outside of the Vonnegut Museum is performing an homage to him by attempting to recreate Harrison Bergeron.

I became a Vonnegut fan at age 12 when I tried to check out Breakfast of Champions from the local library, and they sent me home with a permission slip for my mom to sign instead. So of course I had to read all of his books. Then had to reread them a few years later to understand them.

"A purpose of human life, no matter who is controlling it, is to love whoever is around to be loved." -- Vonnegut

hprotagonistonMar 30, 2020

So this book is a sidewalk strewn with junk, trash which I throw over my shoulders as I travel in time back to November eleventh, nineteen hundred and twenty-two.

It was during that minute in nineteen hundred and eighteen, that millions upon millions of human beings stopped butchering one another. I have talked to old men who were on battlefields during that minute. They have told me in one way or another that the sudden silence was the Voice of God. So we still have among us some men who can remember when God spoke clearly to mankind.

Vonnegut, "Breakfast of Champions"

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