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meeritaonAug 20, 2019
dilaponMay 2, 2020
Fantastic book. Highly recommended.
sbenitojonJune 23, 2019
Read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price for more background on this.
10renonDec 17, 2009
I'm interested - do you have a citation for that? I've read that teeth can repair themselves to some extent in Weston A. Price's Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.
EvgenyonDec 6, 2010
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html
buckthundazonJan 25, 2018
Read Weston A. Price's, 'Nutrition and Physical Degeneration'
no_flagsonJan 9, 2018
Anyone interested in the decline of our modern diet should check out Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, by Weston Price. He was a prominent dentist in the 30s that visited remote populations around the world, documenting their traditional diets and the health effects when switching to a "modern" diet. Available for free on Project Gutenberg http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html
dilaponMar 3, 2021
You also hint at traditional societies having much shorter lifespans than modern ones; it's true they have much higher rates of infant and childhood mortality, but lifespans for people who make it past childhood are very similar.
https://www.sapiens.org/biology/human-lifespan-history/
I agree evolutionary arguments in and of themselves will never be convincing (since there will always necessarily be a large amount of conjecture), but they are not being made in isolation: they providing an explanation for the observed fact that people living in modern societies are suffering a rising epidemic of degenerative diseases, and people living in traditional societies are not.
See also: the fantastic book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston Price.
UnbugMeonMay 28, 2020
If SBM did ANY due diligence, I'm Pretty sure they'd notice that the foundation, (founded in 1999) is pretty far apart from Price's book, "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration". He died in 1948 and thus, had no connection to the foundation bearing his name. It's like they didn't read his book at all and just assumed The Weston A. Price Foundation was echoing his findings. The Weston A. Price Foundation is essentially wack fanfic, very loosely based on his findings, with tonnes of other "holistic" horse shit thrown in.
Dr. Price himself was a proponent of many things that are coming into favor now, such as not overly processing food, not having white bread, getting adequate amounts of vit. d, vit. a, calcium and some others.
Source: Unlike SBM/QW, I've actually read his book.
FWIW, I enjoyed copious amounts of milk as a kid until about the age of 20, its just about all I drank. My vit. a/d levels must have been through the roof vs the average person. (In Canada vit. d3 has to be added to milk by law.) I'm 37, have all 32 teeth, sans cavities, yes even the wisdom teeth. Now adays, I prefer to just drink water and get vits. a/d from cod liver oil. My diet mostly consists of much vegetables and animal foods. Cooked veg and meat are always cooked in butter. I've never been overweight, my bp is 115/65. I'm super sedentary in the winter, quite active in the summer.
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meeritaonJune 9, 2019
If anyone wants to have a healthy life, I recommend you to read the book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration from Weston Price. Basically, eat animal products, the more local based, the best. Grass feed cattle will be the best food source for your body. Cut all carbs (sugar), fruits (man made).
There are 15 nutrients that you can only get from animal products. You can get all minerals and vitamins from animal products you don't need plants at all.
gluuonJuly 19, 2008
jensen123onNov 9, 2015
Edit: I would also recommend reading The China Study by T. Colin Campbell, since Weston A. Price did not get everything right.
chrisco255onJuly 30, 2019
As for "weak science" the book itself "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" is cited by 585 sources on Google Scholar, for example: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=1184515186752252859...
It squares with the parent article that's posted, that diet affects jaw and dental development.
It's well documented that diet and nutrition drastically affect health, and plenty of other sources besides Weston Price's book attest to that:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14972061
The interesting thing about Price's book, is that he spent time traveling to every continent and met with aboriginal tribes and met with the modern (book was written in the 30's) tribes there. He took photos of their teeth. Keep in mind, this book was written in a time before television, before dental hygiene products were readily available in many countries, etc. The interesting thing about the book is the photo evidence itself. Maori, Chumu, Samoans, Melanesians, Gaelics, Aborigines, Inuit and many others are covered.
lnufnuonJan 18, 2016
He was a dentist who started looking into the relationship between diet and teeth in the early 1900s. He decided to do a series of ethnographic nutrition studies in villages in Switzerland, Gaelic communities in the Outer Hebrides, Eskimos and Indians of North America, Melanesian and Polynesian South Sea Islanders, African tribes, Australian Aborigines, New Zealand Maori and the Indians of South America during the 1930s and find out what common denominators they had in their diets that contributed to their great teeth and good health. He published these in his book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.
I'm not exactly sure why his studies are neglected, but I agree that it's possible to learn about nutrition using other methods.
EvgenyonJuly 30, 2014
Then there would be endless arguments: which particular types of food are harmful, and maybe they can be eaten in moderation without any harm at all, and so on, just like the battles that are currently going on around sugar ...
However, there are multiple cases where the introduction of "Western foods" to people who were eating traditional diets caused significant increase in "diseases of civilisation". I personally started from reading "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A. Price - it is available for free online.
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html
gorilla_fightonDec 13, 2018
The Hunting Apes: Meat Eating and the Origins of Human Behavior by Craig B. Stanford
The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability by Lierre Keith
Craft Beef: A Revolution of Small Farms and Big Flavors by Joe Heitzeberg, Ethan Lowry, and Caroline Sanders
Don’t Eat the Oil! The Health Consequences of Consuming “Vegetable” Oils by Thomas L. Copmann, MS, Ph.D.
Fat: An Appreciation of a Misunderstood Ingredient, with Recipes by Jennifer McLagan
The Case Against Sugar by Gary Taubes
Skin in the Game by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos by Jordan B. Peterson
This year I became ex-vegan and the books I read center around nutrition as such. I would recommend all of them. The Vegetarian Myth was the most shocking, one woman's struggles with health which finally opened my eyes. The Case Against Sugar was surprising for the depth of how many people and corporations were involved in promoting sugar on an unsuspecting public. Skin in the Game is Taleb's insightful observations as usual. Nutrition and Physical Degeneration is thorough and prescient, intriguing to see the drastic physical changes due to nutrition, and was I impressed by the dedicated research to study the effects of what was not known at the time but is now believed to be vitamin K2.
EvgenyonNov 13, 2010
What I personally would be worried about is the long-term effects. Unfortunately, these would be very hard to pinpoint as it would be virtually impossible to get enough people to volunteer eating a certain diet, without much fluctuation, for some 30 years or so. And even if such a study would happen, the endless argument would start: "But the diet A contained X, and diet B lacked Y, so obviously we can conclude ..." etc.
Not overeating (and undereating) is like 10 times more important than what you eat, as long as you get enough of all the nutrients you need.
This may or may not be true, and also we could argue about the factor forever. I would say it's way less than 10, especially in the long-term, but I have no way to prove it of course.
Don't obsess over what you eat until there is clear evidence. Eat things you like to eat.
Well, there is the "classic" - "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston Price. (Available online at http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html) He traveled around the world and watched what happened to primitive societies when they introduced western foods in their diets. I read it briefly, and he made an emphasis on dental health, but literally introduction of white flour, sugar, polished rice and canned food produced a huge drop in dental health.