
The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses
Eric Ries
4.6 on Amazon
243 HN comments

The Intelligent Investor: The Definitive Book on Value Investing. A Book of Practical Counsel (Revised Edition)
Benjamin Graham , Jason Zweig , et al.
4.7 on Amazon
188 HN comments

The Innovator's Dilemma: When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail
Clayton M. Christensen, L.J. Ganser, et al.
4.5 on Amazon
168 HN comments

The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers
Ben Horowitz, Kevin Kenerly, et al.
4.7 on Amazon
136 HN comments

High Output Management
Andrew S. Grove
4.6 on Amazon
131 HN comments

Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap and Others Don't
Jim Collins
4.5 on Amazon
100 HN comments

The Mom Test: How to Talk to Customers & Learn If Your Business Is a Good Idea When Everyone Is Lying to You
Rob Fitzpatrick and Robfitz Ltd
4.7 on Amazon
96 HN comments

Rework
Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson
4.5 on Amazon
90 HN comments

Principles: Life and Work
Ray Dalio, Jeremy Bobb, et al.
4.6 on Amazon
69 HN comments

Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business
Gino Wickman
4.6 on Amazon
68 HN comments

Mastery: The Keys to Success and Long-Term Fulfillment
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4.6 on Amazon
57 HN comments

The Personal MBA: Master the Art of Business
Josh Kaufman and Worldly Wisdom Ventures LLC
4.6 on Amazon
55 HN comments

Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not!
Robert T. Kiyosaki
4.7 on Amazon
54 HN comments

The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It
Michael E. Gerber
4.7 on Amazon
51 HN comments

Capital: Volume 1: A Critique of Political Economy
Karl Marx, Derek Le Page, et al.
4.7 on Amazon
50 HN comments
zeynel1onMay 27, 2010
I think the original of this goes to Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad where if you have your own business you "make" money; if you work for someone you "earn" money. But I may be wrong; correction is welcome.
WalterBrightonSep 29, 2016
mikeg8onNov 25, 2013
zzyganonOct 28, 2011
However, as cool as this story is, I swear I read it in one of Rich Dad Poor Dad books. Maybe this is the source of the books story. I'm not sure.
bufordtwainonFeb 8, 2012
hanifbbzonJune 15, 2015
I highly recommend "Rich Dad Poor Dad" by Robert T. Kiyosaki (Author)
swombatonJune 6, 2016
johnyzeeonSep 5, 2020
Lost me right there. That is such a stupid book.
ta1234567890onJuly 21, 2018
asagdullaevonMar 15, 2017
iKlsRonDec 24, 2020
treeman79onJune 27, 2021
Low pressure. Fast past. You’ll get used to rejection quickly.
Rich dad poor dad book had a whole chapter on it.
lupin_sanseionMay 4, 2007
tonyvt2005onMar 22, 2008
bsvalleyonAug 9, 2017
airstrikeonFeb 9, 2018
sjperezonMay 9, 2020
peter_d_shermanonJuly 29, 2020
1. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
2. The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss
3. How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
4. The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene
5. The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida
6. Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
7. Mastery by George Leonard
8. Mindfulness for Beginners by Jon Kabat-Zinn
9. The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday
travemonJuly 27, 2011
jamongkadonJuly 7, 2007
reneherseonMay 25, 2019
I advise people to ignore Kiyosaki's other products, but the message of the books Rich Dad Poor Dad and Cashflow is pretty sound.
eneveuonMay 11, 2020
- searching recommendations on HN, e.g. with a Google search like "site:news.ycombinator.com investing book recommendations"
- searching recommendations on the various subreddits like https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/ (search for book recommendation threads, or read their wikis)
- on the BogleHeads website : https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
Good luck :)
1newmessageonJan 14, 2016
Outliers, Rich Dad Poor Dad, The Lean Startup, How to win friends and influence people.....
pergadadonJune 4, 2019
maireonDec 17, 2019
In other words, if someone is frivolously spending their money on luxuries they are very definitely not wealthy. They only want to appear wealthy. The true wealthy really don't look wealthy. They never really leave level 1 on the chart.
notoriousarunonFeb 13, 2021
> Deep Work https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Work-Focused-Success-Distracted/...
> Can't Hurt Me https://www.amazon.com/Cant-Hurt-Me-Master-Clean/dp/15445078...
> Talking to Humans https://www.amazon.com/Talking-Humans-Success-understanding-...
> Rich Dad Poor Dad https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612680...
> 4 Hour Workweek https://www.amazon.com/4-Hour-Workweek-Escape-Live-Anywhere/...
> Steve Jobs https://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648...
> The Design of everyday things https://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Revised-Expand...
> Siddhartha: A Novel https://www.amazon.com/Siddhartha-Novel-Hermann-Hesse/dp/055...
> The Four Agreements https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Fr...
> Rework https://www.amazon.com/Rework-Jason-Fried/dp/0307463745?dchi...
chillfoxonFeb 26, 2021
Specifically "Rich Dad Poor Dad" and "Rich Dad's Cashflow Quadrant".
Once you understand the basics of assets, liabilities and cash flow it will be much easier to understand other concepts.
From there think about what would interest you and dive in.
If it's stocks then the ASX has some excellent PDFs explaining how it all works.
skookumchuckonOct 13, 2018
Edit: Teaching kids how to manage money, the time value of money, the basics of running a business, how markets work, etc., is painfully neglected by the schools. Young adults often have little knowledge of this, and it definitely puts them at a serious disadvantage.
ramtatatamonNov 23, 2017
I feel for you, I can only give you an advice to try to turn your mind into anything positive. You are lucky you don't have kids to feed, or pregnant wife to look after.
Robert Kiyosaki has written in 'Rich dad poor dad' book, that it's good to default before 30 so you learn the lesson and can become millionaire. You started your venture and you learned your lesson, don't panic and you will be telling this story as good anecdote with big smile.
withdavidlionJan 29, 2016
Read Rich Dad Poor Dad before. There are criticism online about how they aren't real people. But it does display different mindsets, and how that mindset will change the perception of an event -> action taken because of the event.
And to your question of the majority of rich people reading these books. Meh. Not sure the majority, but the more interviews I read/listen/watch from wealthy people there are certain books they have in common, for example Tony Robbins (haven't read any of his books yet). Not to say the majority of self help books aren't total fluff.
netcanonOct 24, 2008
Take some things that are trivial, true, powerful & seldom put into practice. Take the reader through the logical process of what can/will happen & sprinkle generously with motivational story telling. I think the secret sauce is in the chasm between trivial & seldom put into practice. You can say 'that's obvious' to which you/I can answer 'why haven't you done it.'
'Rich Dad Poor Dad' is the perfect example. Everything is either trivial or rubbish. Definitions & numbers are fuzzy & the writing feels like it was plagiarised from real estate flipping sales letters. The core 'message' is trivial, true, powerful & seldom put into practice. He delivers it by using accounting terms with his own definitions (I'm sure accountants like that) over several books, tapes, lectures board games & infomercials (coming soon I hope) but the ida can be represented in a sentence:
"Spend your time & money accumulating revenue generating assets."
You can probably apply that kind of formula to many a self help book dealing with marriage, self esteem, sexor any other popular topic.
_RPL5_onJuly 6, 2021
https://www.ozon.ru/highlight/top-200-knig-po-mneniyu-chitat...
Of the Top-12, 6 to 8 are some form of a self-help book:
* 1st: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fck.
2nd: Say Yes To Life, a self-help book from an Austrian Holocaust surviver.* 4th: Ben Graham's Intelligent Investor.
* 5th: A Russian-author book on the art of "convincing" & "influencing" people (sound familiar?).
* 6th: Another American book, "Radical Forgiveness: A Guide to Spiritual Healing"
* 8th: Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.
* 11th: Women Who Love Too Much: If Love is Causing Suffering. Also a US book.
* 12th: Atlas Shrugged. I suppose it's not a self-help book, but it's very much in line with the spirit of "open-your-eyes" literature.
* If you go down the list, there is a bunch of other titles like Rich Dad Poor Dad, the full set of Nassim Taleb's quasi self-improvement books, etc.
We can sort of argue whether some of these books are self-help adjacent or not (like Ben Graham or Nassim Taleb), but the trend is clear: self-improvement literature is very popular in Russia.
This shows that the self-help cottage industry is not limited to the US. I think people just like the idea of self-improvement.
edit: formatting
tmortononJan 29, 2016
For a better personal finance book, try "I will teach you to be rich", despite the clickbait title: http://www.amazon.com/Will-Teach-You-To-Rich/dp/0761147489
HerpDerpLerponAug 5, 2016
It is maybe a better route to look at 'three fund portfolio' low cost ETF/mutual fund strategies.
Investment blogs such as Mr Money Mustache may also be a good road into a good long term investment strategy.
throwaway803453onJuly 9, 2021
Rich Dad Poor Dad changed many lives, including mine and many of my friends, for the better. It sold 32 million copies in more than 51 languages across more than 109 countries, been on the New York Times bestsellers list for over six years. That doesn't happen unless it has valuable ideas.
It seems like a disservice to the current generation to dismiss this book. That is unless the current generation is so financially smart that the ideas now seem pedestrian. But I see no indication that is true.
WAonDec 10, 2019
However, one thing that is actually valuable from the book: The cash flow for rich people vs. everybody else. The idea is to own assets that generate cash. This cash (and only this) should be used to buy luxury stuff.
But of course, you don't need a whole book for this idea.
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I add another "red flag" for such a list: "The Richest Man in Babylon". This is easily the most overrated book I have ever read. There is only one idea in the entire book and stretched over 100 pages or so: Reinvest 10% of your income.
That's it. There is literally nothing else in this book. There are like 5 stories or so set in a middle-age arabian setting or whatever about people who do exactly this. Invest 10% of their income, favorably in stuff they understand.
It doesn't go any deeper, nothing concrete, nothing helpful.
jpao79onApr 24, 2018
- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtzLMrb8zQ
- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bC1ScfCny38
I like to think in a small way if you own any stocks/bonds, you are in a sense hiring employees (indirectly at arms length of course).
If you are buying SNAP, you are giving Evan Spiegel, the employee, his own business unit and promoting him. If you are holding SNAP and not buying more, then that's like putting Evan Spiegel on a PIP. If you are selling it, its basically like firing Evan Spiegel for poor performance.
I'd recommend to the OP spending any remaining time after your side coding projects learning about businesses/cashflow. To just blindly hold S&P Index funds in your 401K is a bit a kin to hiring never doing an initial coding review and never doing an annual perf review on your employees.
WalterBrightonNov 9, 2017
DowwieonAug 8, 2016
news_hackeronJuly 23, 2019
Rich Dad Poor Dad (Kiyosaki) helped me see debt differently. I grew up with the mindset that all debt is bad, it's slavery, and it should be paid off... and that money is meant to be saved. I now realize that money is meant to be deployed. Also RDPD has helped push me along to realize that debt is a tool, and like all tools there are ways to use it that can be advantageous.
icc97onApr 23, 2018
You can use owning a home as a way of bringing stability. So instead of making plans for a year at a time you can make 5 year plans based on living where you are.
However there's a quote from 'Rich Dad Poor Dad' [0] that your primary residence is a liability. So where as it makes sense to buy there's no point in buying a massive expensive house because it doesn't bring in any income. Buy one that fits your needs with possibly some minimum room for expansion.
That's one of the further benefits of having bought - if you find the perfect area but your family expands you can modify the house that you're in and stay in exactly the same place.
[0]: http://www.richdad.com/Resources/Rich-Dad-Financial-Educatio...
nickpponJuly 17, 2020
Competition is great, but at all levels.
Wealth creation is not zero-sum. Read PG's essay: http://paulgraham.com/wealth.html
Also some investment books:
"A Random Walk Down Wall Street"
"Rich Dad Poor Dad"
"The Millionaire Next Door"
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Bogleheads%C2%AE_investment_...
Have fun learning!
zavulononFeb 8, 2012
I'm not ashamed to say Rich Dad Poor Dad has been one of the most influential books I've read in my life. At 20, I had very little idea about business - I thought my path was clear: graduate with a degree, get a job, work up corporate ladder, etc. Reading this book was completely mind-blowing and eye-opening.
Yes, most of the advice is trivial, as I look at it now.. But there's certainly great value in the book - business vs "rat race", building assets vs liabilities, learning to sell, active vs passive income, what you can't afford your business can, value of financial literacy, and much more. But most importantly this: you can very rarely get rich working for someone else.
netcanonMay 26, 2015
The main message is fairly basic. Spending money and effort on things like investment property is the way to accumulate wealth. He sprinkled in a healthy dose of self help woo and nonsense, but no more than life hacking, dieting, fitness or any other self help best seller type book.
Second (and far more importantly), Patio11 is about 12 rungs above any of that. His level of transparency and mystery-free writing is almost unheard of. This kind of "If you're so awesome why don't you.." criticism is such a pity. It can and does deter people from sharing (I know it would deter me).
You have the full story available to you. The history of this site/business. The stuff that it led to. The financials. The effort required. The eventual sell price. An underhanded comment implying self serving dishonesty is so unjustified and unfair, nevermind uncharitable. It's a cheap shot and it's depressing.
tjronNov 7, 2009
"Rich Dad Poor Dad" by Robert Kiyosaki. Yeah, really. Both this book and the author have been the recipient of a good amount of criticism, but this book help me a lot to increase my thinking beyond a 9-5 job as the primary way of making money. That said, the book is more inspirational and vague than a concrete plan on how to do anything in particular.
winternettonAug 17, 2010
There is much more at work in this society than whats written on paper, especially if you're reading Rich Dad Poor Dad.
iN7h33nDonApr 9, 2015
Digital Books:
Things on my List:
Things I recommend:
EDIT:
Short Reading I Recommend:
simplyauseronJuly 17, 2008
Books on Wealth
Investing books in this order
Do NOT read
slindstronJuly 26, 2010
-Books-
Lifecycle of a Technology Company by Edwin Miller
The Game by Neil Strauss (you laugh but it's basically all about getting more confident)
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyasaki
The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John Maxwell
They Call Me Coach by John Wooden
-Magazines-
Entrepreneur
Fast Company
BusinessWeek
Fortune
Money
Inc.
-Websites-
Hacker News
Fred Wilson's Blog (www.avc.com)
FoundersSpace (www.foundersspace.com)
A lot of these titles are more focused on leadership or business in general, but I think a successful entrepreneur should have a general knowledge of a lot of stuff out there. I'm sure that I'm forgetting some, and these don't include the books I've got for the MBA program I'm taking. I'd have to dig those up, but I can post the titles if you'd like.
[Edited because the formatting was really screwy]
geerlingguyonSep 5, 2020
I was trying to understand the perspective of the article, and that gave me the major clue.
RDPD is one of many books that basically says the key to financial success is real estate investment.
For a few people, and at certain times, maybe, but it is better for most people to make it a (small) part of a wider financial investment plan.
Your first house (or any house) should be first and foremost though if as a place where you will live, and “primary residence as investment” is almost never a good thing.
stoicShellonDec 17, 2019
I think I really don't trust the author of Rich dad poor dad but the one thing he got right is the ESBI system ("cashflow quadrants"). — I'll let you google but the gist of it is simple: there are only two limited resources, money and time, and any work is a trade of one for the other. You want to be in a position wherein you generate 'enough' money to 'buy back time' essentially. That means being either a business owner (B quadrant) and/or an investor (I quadrant).
Freelancing is the "S" (specialist) quadrant, you don't want to be there forever — because revenue only comes from putting in hours, it's a neverending grinding wheel, however profitable it seems. What you want is to setup your 'freelancing' as a 'specialist' to grow into hiring people and thus become a business.
Never forget that more than 80% of GDP in rich countries is made by small businesses. Groups of 2, 5, 10, 20 people make up the effective wealth of our economies.
Deep down that's what The Millionaire Fastlane or The 4-Hour Week expose to the general public, this idea of relative independence combined with a business model that cumulatively earns you ever more time — and hiring is key to unlocking that, multiplying manhours around your activity, sharing the load, not being "required" yourself for the business to run. A group of well-organized devs could probably wrap 30-hours weeks and still make a ton of money.
WalterBrightonSep 3, 2016
Not how much they did or did not inherit.
Of course, having sensible attitudes about finance corresponds with having more money, but RDPD suggests the attitudes produce the money, rather than the other way around.
It's hard to find good statistical evidence one way or the other, but there's anecdotal evidence that suddenly dropping large quantities of money on a poor person does not automatically confer an ability to manage it effectively, and that they revert to being poor.
zavulononFeb 27, 2010
- Benjamin Franklin's autobiography (translated into modern English).
- PG's "Hackers and Painters" (why I joined this forum).
- Tim Ferris's "Four Hour Work Week" (has to be taken with a gigantic grain of salt, but has many very helpful and practical tips and ideas.)
- "Mastery" by George Leonard
- "Good to Great" by Jim Collins
And finally (and I don't want to turn this into a political flamewar, "grain of salt" applies here as well, etc, etc) but the book that had the most influence on me was "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. Unlike all the others on the list above, it's a work of fiction, but I think it is the best at capturing and romanticizing the joy and euphoria that you feel when you build something that works.
blindhippoonFeb 8, 2012
Your time is better spent generating products/investments that generate wealth independent of your own input. It's really really hard to get rich as a consultant or even as an employee (though both can generate the capital to kick-start the real wealth generation).
A concept that was illuminated quite brilliantly to me when I read How to Get Rich by Felix Dennis.
However, I personally think intelligence and "balls" play a far bigger role in our ability to generate wealth for ourselves then anyone seems to give credit for. You can read all the books on finance you want, if you're an idiot, you will probably fail to get the returns you want. Same goes if you're a coward.
Personally, I'm lacking a bit in the balls, and hope I'm smart enough. We'll see in the next 10 years or so.