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kevinmchughonNov 5, 2018
wjnconSep 20, 2018
Wiki - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Minds:_The_Octopus,_th...
Review - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/15/other-minds-pe...
alikimonAug 10, 2020
gebruikersnaamonDec 24, 2020
The gist is that because they have such (relative) short lives, their lessened need to be defensive allows them to be more curious.
FredrikMeyeronMay 30, 2020
mnemonSep 26, 2019
I highly recommend "Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness" for a fascinating look at octopus evolution and comparison to ourselves.
pavanredonDec 5, 2017
I am reading the book "Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness" currently and the book makes the case that intelligence and/or consciousness has evolved separately in mammals (humans) and cephalopods.
The more I look at diversity and evolution of life on Earth, it seems like "intelligent life" as we know it is just a inevitable consequence of evolution, given enough time, perhaps.
ImaCakeonJan 8, 2021
You could also try Sam Harris' "waking up" app which claims to achieve what is talked about in Wallace's essay through meditation. From my dabbling with it, it is somewhat true if not entirely true.
Finally you could explore broader works on the mind. I have been listening to audiobooks on animal intelligence ("Other Minds" and "The Genius of Birds") and have made a start on a history of psychology/psychiatry - "The Mind Fixers", which is a bit dry but also filled with wonderful anecdotes and stories.
sradmanonAug 10, 2020
The article mentions [NSFW!] The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife [1] (erotic Japanese art from 1814) and the books Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness [2] by Peter Godfrey-Smith and The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness by Sy Montgomery [3].
[1] NSFW! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Minds:_The_Octopus,_the_...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sy_Montgomery
EDIT: added NSFW! warnings.
ImaCakeonJan 2, 2021
sinemetu11onJan 11, 2018
If you find this topic interesting I'd highly suggest reading the book Other Minds [1] and maybe Being a Beast [2]. Apparently there was a Y fork millions of years ago in the tree of life where vertebrates and invertebrates split. It's interesting that both branches developed advanced nervous systems, specifically octopi and mammals. What's the purpose of an octopus having the highest brain to body mass of any invertebrate? Especially when they live ~2 years. Also, 2/3 of their neurons are found in its arms. Imagine thinking with your arms or seeing with your skin - they have photoreceptors in their skin and are able to match their environment yet they're color blind.
[1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28116739-other-minds
[2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28696605-being-a-beast
bharath28onOct 13, 2017