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rapfariaonMar 6, 2018

Why the recommendation for Learn Python 3 The Hard Way? Not only the author was against Python 3 for the longest time (but his Python 2 stuff would be outdated, so less money, right?), his persona was controversial at best here in HN. Don't support Zed Shaw or Terry Goodkind[1], folks.

Instead I suggest Real Python[2], which is extensive but to the point, or Automate the Boring Stuff[3], that also has practical examples and free.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/feb/26/terry-goodkind...

[2] https://realpython.com/

[3] http://automatetheboringstuff.com/chapter0/

andrewstuartonMar 6, 2018

>> Why the recommendation for Learn Python 3 The Hard Way?

Specifically because even Zed Shaw - probably the most vocal and longest time objector to Python3 has moved on from recommending against Python 3. Thus now that he supports Python 3 then I think he should be supported - history is past.

Everyone with a significant industry presence has moved on from recommending against Python 3 - except Google.

glangdaleonJan 7, 2020

"Learn Python 3 the Hard Way" on Amazon: "68 used and new from $11.95". New it's essentially $18.

I have trouble imagining that anyone who might have wanted to learn from a book would have baulked at a <$US20 purchase. There are plenty of people who don't like learning from books, which is fine, and I'm certainly not denying their existence, but those people wouldn't be in Zed's market anyhow.

andrewstuartonMar 6, 2018

It's hard to understand that they could think Python 2 to be the valid choice for this, as though Python 3 was "the future" and things are heading there.

Python 3 is the present, we are there, Python 2 is the past and in 2 short years it will be unsupported and whatever you learned from this resource will need to be re-learned for Python 3 pretty damn quick.

Recommendation to those learning Python: avoid this Google resource and instead use Zed Shaw's "Learn Python 3 The Hard Way" https://learnpythonthehardway.org/python3/

Or you could do things Google's way and then follow up with learning how to use DOS http://people.uncw.edu/pattersone/121/labs/L1_MSDOS_Primer.p... because I believe things are heading that way.