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How Not To Die: Discover the foods scientifically proven to prevent and reverse disease

Greger

4.7 on Amazon

79 HN comments

Children of Time

Adrian Tchaikovsky, Mel Hudson, et al.

4.5 on Amazon

78 HN comments

The Visual Display of Quantitative Information

Tufte and Edward R.

4.6 on Amazon

77 HN comments

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: The Definitive, 4th Edition

Betty Edwards

4.7 on Amazon

77 HN comments

Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die

Chip Heath and Dan Heath

4.6 on Amazon

77 HN comments

Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup

John Carreyrou, Will Damron, et al.

4.7 on Amazon

76 HN comments

Moby Dick: or, the White Whale

Herman Melville

4.3 on Amazon

75 HN comments

Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy

Cathy O'Neil

4.5 on Amazon

75 HN comments

House of Leaves

Mark Z. Danielewski

4.6 on Amazon

75 HN comments

The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance

W. Timothy Gallwey , Zach Kleiman, et al.

4.7 on Amazon

74 HN comments

The Communist Manifesto

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels

4.3 on Amazon

74 HN comments

A Philosophy of Software Design

John Ousterhout

4.4 on Amazon

74 HN comments

The Left Hand of Darkness: 50th Anniversary Edition (Ace Science Fiction)

Ursula K. Le Guin , David Mitchell, et al.

4.4 on Amazon

72 HN comments

An Introduction to Statistical Learning: with Applications in R (Springer Texts in Statistics)

Gareth James , Daniela Witten , et al.

4.8 on Amazon

72 HN comments

Mastering Regular Expressions

Jeffrey E. F. Friedl

4.6 on Amazon

72 HN comments

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mcintyre1994onJan 24, 2019

I doubt it's news to many here, but Bad Blood is an amazing book on Theranos. It doesn't follow as far as the deposition (I had no idea she was facing 20 years!) but I'd highly recommend it for anyone interested in this story. The audiobook is great too.

ngngngngonSep 21, 2020

I'm very excited for another audiobook about a tech startup scam to listen to on a future road trip. On that note, Bad Blood in audiobook form is excellent for that purpose.

m1keilonDec 23, 2018

in addition to Bad Blood and Shoe Dog that were mentioned numerous times already I would add "Rocket Men" by Robert Kurston. The story of Apollo 8. I'm not a space geek but the story is very interesting and well written. Audible book is very good.

jghnonMar 21, 2021

The book Bad Blood gets into this a bit. It's a fantastic read on the whole Theranos story, for those who have not read it yet.

wp381640onDec 23, 2018

released this year and great reads:

* Bad Blood - mentioned tons of times

* Billion Dollar Whale - story of the 1MDB scandal

* Black Edge - chronicles insider trading on wall street

* The Billionaire Raj - about India's income inequality and ruling oligarchy

ryan-allenonJune 16, 2018

I'm reading the book Bad Blood at the moment. It's a cracker. Assuming it's true, the level of wilful negligence and fraud is astounding. What is unbelievable is how they got away with it for so long.

I can hardly put it down, I highly recommend it.

taleodoronDec 23, 2018

thanks for mentioning Bad Blood - truly great book, possibly best in 2018

cncrndonJuly 13, 2018

Bad Blood is crazy stuff. Stayed up reading it last night after seeing the recs here.

Not sure what I learned other than people are carried away easily, but it was very entertaining.

TokiinonJuly 2, 2019

Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup by John Carreyrou

The ride to the top and then rock bottom for Theranos is a wild one, and the author does a great job of not letting you put this book down once you start.

foobawonSep 5, 2018

I read Bad Blood and was curious what she sounded like.

https://youtu.be/rGfaJZAdfNE?t=99

The book definitely gets it right.

headcanononFeb 5, 2019

Long story short, Elizabeth surrounded herself with politically powerful, but medically unqualified people like Kissinger and Gen. Mattis. The book Bad Blood does a very good job explaining the depths of the deception.

ryanwaggoneronDec 12, 2018

You're probably being downvoted because more than a dozen comments on this thread mention Bad Blood (including the author), which was a bestseller this year and has been widely described and discussed across popular media. It's pretty easy to guess that the person you're replying to probably meant that.

freehunteronMay 17, 2019

I've read Bad Blood about the horrors of modern startups, but I've been looking for good books about the horrors of dotcom companies. Any recommendations?

misiti3780onJuly 13, 2018

Here are some excellent books I have read in the past few weeks

1) How to change your mind
2) Bad Blood
3) Kitchen Confidential
4) I am a strange loop
5) The good mothers (about the ndrangheta)
6) Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst

x0x0onJan 4, 2019

Bad Blood by John Carreyrou. John is the WSJ reporter whose investigation of Theranos brought to light their behavior.

Every chapter you read there will be at least one "Holy shit. I can't believe someone did that" moment.

Bill Gates concurs https://www.gatesnotes.com/Books/Bad-Blood

tmp092onJan 26, 2019

This is only semi-related, but I just finished Bad Blood (Theranos book) and started looking up some of the characters on LinkedIn to see what they were up to. The infamous HR person (Balwani's right hand person) just started a new position at no other than Google less than 2 months ago!

guiambrosonDec 23, 2018

* Why We Sleep, by Matthew Walker

* Masters of Doom, by David Kushner

* What Doesn't Kill Us, by Scott Carney

* Bad Blood, by John Carreyrou

* The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up, by Marie Kondō

* How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big, by Scott Adams

avgDevonMar 26, 2021

I'm all about nonfiction. Technical books, mostly programming, investing, true crime and books about some events. I really enjoyed "Bad blood" and a recent book about Chernobyl explosion but I cannot remember it's name.

I read a few times a week tops.

_conquistadoronDec 30, 2019

I've read all of these except Kochland (just ordered it now) and complete agree. You have great taste! Check out American Kingpin by Nick Bilton for a read somewhat similar to Bad Blood.

Do you have any other recommendations?

zilchersonJuly 13, 2018

1. Measure What Matters - John Doers book about OKR’s is awesome, best business book since Lean Startup

2. Bad Blood - Just started it and it reads like John Grisham

3. The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaur - Narrative about dinosaurs, I’m excited

4. Cork Dork - Great book about wine and Sommeliers

5. Waterloo: The History of Four Days - Everyone talks about Napolean’s defeat, but I honestly know nothing about it.

max23_onDec 12, 2018

I don't read that much in 2018 but below are the two interesting pick ups for me.

1. Bad Blood - John Carreyrou

2. Flash Boys - Michael Lewis

jelmerdejongonDec 12, 2018

* 'Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup' by John Carreyrou

* 'Who is Michael Ovitz' by Michael Ovitz

* 'High Growth Handbook' by Elad Gil

* 'Principles: Life and Work' by Ray Dalio

* '1491' & '1493' by Charles C. Mann

scrupleonJune 2, 2019

> Is this company for real?

> Lots of executives. Lots of advisors. High powered board. No demo. First prototype due this month.

> Uh oh.

It's like reading Bad Blood in real time.

taleodoronDec 23, 2018

Reading now Factfulness by Hans Rosling and it's pretty great so far (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34890015-factfulness)

Other than that I believe Bad Blood by John Carreyrou is possibly the best of 2018 (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37976541-bad-blood) - mentioned in the other comment already

nikanjonAug 9, 2020

I really encourage everyone to read the Theranos book (Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup). The legal system is de facto used to bully everyone around the startup, and people cower in fear when a white-shoe law firm comes knocking.

sv123onJan 24, 2019

After reading Bad Blood, the entire board comes off sounding completely incompetent.

crablonDec 12, 2018

1. Creative Selection by Ken Kocienda - Great insight into how Apple teams develop products, and creating a “demo culture”

2. Bad Blood by John Carreyrou - Gripping prose and an altogether incredible storyline

3. It Doesn’t Have to be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried and DHH - Some great lessons in here (interspersed with other not-so-great ones) for creating a “culture of calm” within organizations

4. When The Bubble Bursts by Hilliard Macbeth - Insightful look into the fragile structure of the Canadian real estate market (a bit hyperbolic at times, though)

yarapavanonDec 4, 2018

The books:

1) Educated: A Memoir - by Tara Westover;

2) Army of None - by Paul Scharre;

3) Bad Blood - by John Carreyrou;

4) 21 Lessons for the 21st Century - by Yuval Noah Harari;

5) The Headspace Guide to Meditation and Mindfulness - by Andy Puddicombe

pmattosonJune 15, 2018

For anyone wanting to dig deeper into this the recently released Bad Blood book is pretty awesome. The author, the WSJ jornalist above who early on raised serious doubts about Theranos, reconstructs the startup history in a thriller-ish style, but fully based on actual facts/research. Highly recommended.

theatraineonDec 29, 2019

Some great books have already been mentioned but those which were the most personally influential which haven't yet been mentioned:

- Total Recall: My Unbelievably True Life Story by Arnold Schwarzenegger

- Elon Musk by Ashlee Vance

- Bad Blood by John Carreyrou

- Kochland by Christopher Leonard

- Masters of Doom by David Kushner

I read a lot of "business consultant" books and began to be annoyed with them since many of them can be summed up by the title and the first couple of chapters.

I like the books above because they presented factual events that allow you to draw your own conclusions.

I especially like Schwarzenegger's book and Bad Blood because of their depth. It was interesting to hear about Schwarzenegger's crazy business ideas like how he became a millionaire before becoming an actor and how he bought a 747.

I found the audiobook "Master's of Doom" (book is 2003 but audiobook is newer) to be really entertaining as it was read by actor Wil Wheaton who did a great job.

MattLeBlanc001onDec 27, 2018

1. Bad Blood, John Careyou

2. Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter

3. The Master Switch: The Rise and Fall of Information Empires

4. Zero to one Peter Thiel

5. The republic – Plato

6. The Hard Thing About Hard Things, Ben Horowitz

7. The 1-Page Marketing Plan: Get New Customers, Make More Money, And Stand Out From The Crowd Kindle Edition

8. Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike

9. Never split the difference

10. The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses Hardcover

11. The Four Steps to the Epiphany: Successful Strategies for Products that Win

12. Economy course: https://www.core-econ.org/

QribaonMay 30, 2021

Bad Blood by John Carreyrou.

You will be in for a ride.

ArmandGrilletonMay 15, 2020

Hatching Twitter is very interesting and has a lot of drama, I loved it. I found that Elon Musk had a boring writing style (very slow to start). I also recommend Bad Blood, it's hard to stop reading it once started.

One great aspect of Facebook is that Zuckerberg interviewed with the author for years and the cut into parts makes a lot of sense (Harvard and before, "Move fast and break things", Trump, aftermath).

Cactus2018onAug 5, 2019

You might be living in the book Bad Blood by John Carreyrou.

MattLeBlanc001onOct 13, 2019

Bad Blood by John Carreyrou

randycupertinoonJan 5, 2019

I just finished the audiobook of American Kingpin and LOVED IT. Nonfiction that reads like a thriller. Very well done and the narration was also excellent (which also comes into play a lot for audiobooks!).

Bad Blood by John Carreyrou about the rise and fall of Theranos is very similar feel to American Kingpin, if you enjoyed one you will probably love the other; I thought both were equally fantastic, probably my best reads of 2018.

RmDenonDec 12, 2018

Some of the books I read

Artemis Andy Weir
Liked it.. but liked the Martian better

Origin Dan Brown
If you are into this sort of thing.. I know his writing is not the best but I like the story

We were Yahoo! Jeremy Ring

About the rise and fall of yahoo.... some interesting stuff

1965: The Most Revolutionary Year in Music Andrew Grant Jackson
Good read.. lots of events that year

Ready Player One Ernest Cline
what is there to say....

A Frozen Hell William Trotter
About the the war between Finland and the Soviet Union

3 Kings: Diddy, Dr. Dre, Jay-Z, and Hip-Hop's Multibillion-Dollar Rise Zack O'Malley Greenburg
Like this a lot

The Outsider Stephen King
Back to classic King.. recommended

Stalin New Biography of a Dictator Oleg V. Khlevniuk
If you are interested in this character..then I recommend this

Skin In The Game Nassim Nicholas Taleb
Taleb's latest

Dead Reckoning: The Untold Story of the Northwest Passage Ken McGoogan
After watching the Terror on tv.. I had to read this

Nobu Nobu Matsuhisa
What a life, loved it

Hunting El Chapo Andrew Hogan/Douglas Century
Good read

Bad Blood John Carreyrou
WHat a messed up person and company

Tesla: Inventor of the Modern Richard Munson
This was very good

The Revenge of Analog David Sax
I liked this book a lot... maybe because I remember all these items when they existed

Tasting the Past: The Science of Flavor and the Search for the Origins of Wine Kevin Begos
If you want to learn a little more about wines and the origins..

Bag Of Bones Stephen King
One of his best

Robot-Proof: Higher Education in the Age of Artificial Intelligence Joseph E. Aoun
We all know it's coming

bayindirhonDec 12, 2018

    - Complete Hyperion Cantos (incl. Endymion series)
- Bad Blood (Still churning through)

Hyperion is a 2500 page behemoth and took most of my year, however most of the things written in the book are not sci-fi, and overall the book is very enlightening. Still digesting the stuff in my brain.

Bad Blood is a fascinating read. I'm still in the first quarter, and with this density, the events are well simply amazing to put it lightly.

ArtWombonDec 23, 2018

Terrific list. In addition to the Theranos book, Bad Blood. I'd also check out Paige Williams' The Dinosaur Artist. Deep dive into world of fossil hunting and collecting.

New Yorker article on which it is based, Bones of Contention: A Florida man's curious trade in Mongolian dinosaurs

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/01/28/bones-of-conte...

vanilla-almondonJune 13, 2021

Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup

I can't resist mentioning this book. It's not fiction, but it reads like fiction - it has all the ingredients for a compelling fiction story: oversized characters, delusions of grandeur, deception, giant egos, and so much more. But it's not fiction, it's all true. Hollywood wants to make it into a movie, and when you read the book you'll know exactly why.

hn_throwaway_99onMar 18, 2019

Folks that are commenting here that "well Big Company XYZ does some shady stuff how is that any different" honestly make me very sad.

If you've read Bad Blood and can honestly say that the behavior of Google, Tesla, et al reaches anywhere close to the level of deceit, malice and downright sociopathy exhibited by Holmes and Balwani, I question your moral compass.

msmith10101onSep 5, 2018

Bad Blood is an awesome book. Really disturbing. There's a story about a naive stanford grad who joined Theranos and tried to blow a whistle internally when he realized that the "Edison" (a Theranos-based testing equipment) was BS. Holme's right-hand-man destroyed the kid, fired him, and even turned his grandfather against him (who was an investor - these Stanford fucktards and their legacies). Of course that stanford person is now pursuing his own startup...

Bad Blood has not had the impact in SV that it should have. The stock market needs to crash and the myth of steve jobs needs to die :-(

randycupertinoonMar 10, 2019

> But some folks just Won't Let Theranos Go. It comes up again and again and again as some kind of existential moral statement instead of the one-every-few-years business scandal that it actually is. And as far as I can tell, the only reason for this is that some of the early investors (that's right, the victims of the crime) were Democrats.

What? No... it's because we'd never seen the Silicon Valley Startup Hype Machine ramped up to it's fully glory before like Theranos. Also svelte young blueeyed blondes are catnip to media, combine that with "youngest self made female billionaire" and it's mandatory reporting and guaranteed spotlight in the public eye... throwing the fact that it was all a scam and renewed interest and modern popularity with TrueCrime genre and modern scammers like Anna Delvey and Fyre Festival and .... kaboom, here we are. Didn't hurt that Bad Blood was also excellently written and well-researched. All in all an excellent story.

FnoordonSep 5, 2018

I recently read this book as well, and can highly recommend it. Bad Blood is investigative journalism at its finest.

(It wouldn't surprise me if we eventually get a film adaptation... but those are always worse if you read the book.)

The reporter, John Carreyrou, also caught backfire from Theranos. Especially his sources whom he did try to protect but were stalked by private investigators & lawyers.

Given that Theranos didn't have a product it is only good news that they're finally dissolving. Holmes and Balwani ruled with tyranny and compartmentalisation which created a toxic work environment, but that does not mean all the employees were ignorant or stupid or into the scam; many of the employees were highly skilled and intelligent. Those who did know they didn't have a product (or that it was some dirty hack based on a different product) were manipulated by Holmes and Balwani.

I saw someone mention psychopath. I'm unsure what exactly these two people are. Sociopath, psychopath, narcissist, whatever it is; it isn't pretty.

When I read the book I was regularly reminded by Brian Krebs' "Sources: Security Firm Norse Corp. Imploding" [1]. They also had no real product and used compartmentalisation. Also well written (though way briefer).

[1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/01/sources-security-firm-no...

sytelusonJune 7, 2018

The book Bad Blood is amazing and extremely gripping. The question, however, why Holmes did this is still open. The critical point to remember is that Holmes never sold her shares and in fact she kept accumulating more. She didn't need IQ of 150 to figure out that going live with erroneous medical devices would get her slammed with lawsuits from patients. If she just wanted to dup investors to become rich, she could have done it real easy by stepping aside, let someone inherit the mess and then selling her stack. In fact her board asked her to do just that before WSJ found out and she refused it. I have seen her plenty of talks/interviews and its super hard to believe she was working with malicious plan all along. Part of me wants to feel that her desire was genuine to some extent and she just hoped things would work out if she pulled lies and deception long enough to keep raising funds. She had lots of top tier advisors who have done exactly that to establish their own companies. I'm not defending her by any measure, she was classic bad manager with Balwani topping even her. There was a very little chance she could have actually ran talented team longer term - but this is precisely the part book conveniently leaves out.

dansoonJune 5, 2018

Kudos to Tesla for not only being OK with this guy having a sidegig but also not trying to be a jerk in demanding a cut. I know that seems like status quo for companies not to demand control over what employees create outside of work, but seems like that line can be blurred when there's enough money involved.

(edit: not just having a sidegig, but being able to launch and run his startup for ~1 year while employed at Tesla)

I also have a low bar after reading "Bad Blood", the book about Theranos. One of Theranos's chief engineers, on his own time, came up with a cool idea for bike lights and ran a successful KickStarter [0]. Elizabeth Holmes' response:

> Kent told Elizabeth about his successful Kickstarter campaign, thinking she wouldn’t mind. But he badly miscalculated: she and Sunny were furious. They viewed it as a major conflict of interest and asked him to transfer his bike-lights patent to Theranos. The paperwork Kent had signed when he joined the company entitled them to any intellectual property he produced while employed there, they contended. Kent disagreed. He’d worked on his little venture during his free time and felt he had done nothing wrong. He also failed to see how a new type of bicycle light posed a threat to a maker of blood-testing equipment. But Elizabeth and Sunny wouldn’t let it go. In meeting after meeting, they tried to get him to turn over the patent. They ratcheted up the pressure by bringing Theranos’s new senior counsel, David Doyle, to some of the meetings.

Eventually Kent, the engineer, was allowed to go on leave of absence to work on his bike-light. I don't think he ever came back, and he was the guy who was the chief architect of the piece of crap that Holmes would later describe as "the most important thing humanity has ever built".

[0] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/revolights/revolights-j...

FnoordonSep 5, 2018

Tho its predominantly males there are many women who are leading or lead large businesses. Meg Whitman for example, lead eBay from 30 employees to 15000.

The unique feature of Holmes was that she was the first woman starting and leading a (supposedly successful) start-up. Needless to say though, it was a facade. That's saddening, but having read Bad Blood I expected nothing less but the company Theranos to dissolve.

psychotikonDec 12, 2018

Unbroken - Laura Hillenbrand.
Story of human grit and survival in the Pacific WWII theater that I hadn't heard of before. I was blown away by the story, and about what I learned about the War that I didn't already know.

Creativity Inc. Re-read it this year, re-inspired.

The Outsider - Stephen King.
Well written, engrossing but a typical Stephen King novel

Shoe Dog - Phil Knight.
Story of Nike. Phenomenal.

Bad blood - John Carreyrou.
Story of Theranos. Absolutely crazy read.

7 Powers: The Foundations of Business Strategy - Hamilton Helmer.
Good insights on strategy

guiambrosonJan 7, 2020

And if you want to go beyond computer history, then I'd add

- "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman", Richard Feynman

- "The hard things about hard things", Ben Horowitz

- "Shoe Dog - A Memoir by the Creator of Nike", Phil Knight

- "Bad Blood", John Carreyrou [about Elizabeth Holmes]

- "Trillion Dollar Coach" [about the life of Bill Campbell]

marshallbananasonSep 16, 2019

Bad Blood by John Carreyrou, a book about the infamous blood testing startup Theranos. I couldn't put it down. Read the whole thing in a day and a half.

It's basically a gripping thriller set in Silicon Valley. The story focuses on what went on within the company since its inception. It's completely mind boggling how and why it all happened.

jeffFrom18FonDec 23, 2018

Some I haven't seen mentioned yet:

The Monk of Mokha - Dave Eggers; This seems to have been mostly under the radar but it was immensely entertaining and gives a look inside Yemen that is hard to come by. Probably my favorite book of the year.

Tailspin - Steven Brill; A look at how the split and interaction between business and government became so dysfunctional over the last 50 years. This topic has been covered elsewhere but I thought was done well.

Behemoth - Joshua B. Freeman; A history of (very large) factories.

Live Work Work Work Die - Corey Pein; A very cynical but funny look at life/work in Silicon Valley.

Two Sisters - Asne Seierstad; A story about 2 young Somalian immigrants to Norway who move to Syria to join ISIS.

Also: Bad Blood

Read in 2018 but published earlier:
Black Edge - Sheelah Kolhatkar; The Solace of Open Spaces - Gretel Ehrlich; American Cornball - Christopher Miller

janvdbergonDec 14, 2019

These are a few of the ones I read this year and that the average HN reader would also probably enjoy (links are to my blog):

* Why We Sleep: https://j11g.com/2019/05/31/why-we-sleep-matthew-walker/

* The Effective Executive: https://j11g.com/2019/03/18/the-effective-executive-peter-dr...

* High Output Management: https://j11g.com/2019/01/29/high-output-management-andrew-s-...

* Bad Blood: https://j11g.com/2019/01/21/bad-blood-john-carreyrou/

* The 7 Habits (I reread this after a long time and it still holds up!) https://j11g.com/2019/09/30/the-7-habits-of-highly-effective...

* A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again – David Foster Wallace (This is just an amazing book and became one of my all time favorites) https://j11g.com/2019/08/08/a-supposedly-fun-thing-ill-never...

atombenderonAug 22, 2018

The Power Broker is a great, huge read.

Another good one that I got recently is Arabia Felix [1], a rather obscure Danish book from 1962 from NYRB. A minor classic.

I'm not a war buff by any stretch, but I can recommend Antony Beevor. Sometimes his books devolve into exhausting, never-ending play-by-plays of tank and troop movements, but both Stalingrad and The Fall of Berlin [3] and were fascinating just for his ability to conjure up the time and place. Inside the Third Reich was similarly interesting, even it's known to be a flawed narrative.

I also recently read Bad Blood, about Theranos, which was excellent. Literary-wise not quite on the same level, though.

Got any recommendations?

[1] https://www.npr.org/2017/06/17/531929925/in-the-refrains-of-...

[2] https://www.amazon.com/Stalingrad-Fateful-1942-1943-Antony-B...

[3] https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Berlin-1945-Antony-Beevor

amoorthyonAug 20, 2019

Having read the riveting book Bad Blood it seems Theranos failed for two reasons:

1. Elizabeth Holmes concocted a product that defied the laws of chemistry and physics and couldn't actually be built. She refused to relax constraints like size/packaging that may have made it plausible.

2. She engaged in fraud in the hopes that eventually #1 would be solved and created a culture without transparency that further hampered the product from ever working.

This wasn't a case of a gamble that didn't pay off. This was a case of an infeasible idea, poorly executed, and compounding the issue with outright fraud. No startup advice necessary to avoid this.

projectramoonMar 18, 2019

Having read Bad Blood, I kind of believe it. Hear me out (also have not seen it).

I really think that she thought she could make the machines work. I think Holmes and Balwani thought that, given enough time and enough smart people they would eventually get a working version. I think they thought -- they may still think -- that it was a question of throwing more resources at the problem.

The whole thing would have lasted longer if they had not put a deadline on themselves by actually releasing it into the wild with the Walgreens deal.

txcwpalphaonJuly 13, 2018

I can't second the recommendation of Bad Blood enough. I couldn't put it down. Every chapter I thought "surely I've reached the bottom of the rabbit hole now. It CANT get any crazier than this", but then it always did.

Aside from being a really enthralling and interesting story about one of SV's darling unicorns, it was also really eye opening into the absurdity of the amount of money that gets thrown around willy-nilly in SV, and how the bandwagon/FOMO effect just makes it worse. I won't say anything more because it's better to just read the book, but this is one of those stories that is almost endlessly fascinating.

sabizmilonFeb 21, 2019

I just finished reading Bad Blood and it details how they went to extreme measures to ensure that the FDA never saw their Edison machines like barring entry to the lab on the day of an inspection, putting security guards in front of the door, and lying when asked what was inside.

While the inspector could have pushed the issue, I don't think they 'failed massively'.

FnoordonAug 25, 2018

My point certainly wasn't to compare Tesla to Theranos. I didn't mention the two in one sentence.

My point is that for every good example of a success story (about startups in this case), there's a good story of a failure. And the failures are much more than the successes. If you want to discount the failures because they don't fit your narrative, then you should equally oppose the successes when they don't fit your narrative.

TL;DR my post is a reply to a post and should be seen in that context. You've taken my post out of context; please don't do that.

Moreover, I recently read the book Bad Blood and I found it interesting to get an inside look at a startup who present themselves better than they actually are. I don't believe that part of the Theranos debacle is so uncommon. The severity and unique market though, are. And, that's actually underlined by the Twitter thread (the pictures). Another similarity is the massive quitting and burnout of quality personal, the fear of being fired and standing up, low morale. Those are, IMO, interesting similarities.

JeddonAug 11, 2018

> But I'd rather be a well paid and connected idiot than a poorly paid smart person.

As an aside, this is always an interesting thought experiment.

I read an example in John Carreyrou's Bad Blood (Theranos expose) recently:

"Several members of the Frat Pack joined Greg and two of his colleagues from the engineering department for lunch on the big terrace overlooking the parking lot one day. A discussion about the low IQs of some of the world’s top soccer players led them to debate the question, Would you rather be smart and poor or dumb and rich? The three engineers all chose smart and poor, while the Frat Pack voted unanimously for dumb and rich. Greg was struck by how clearly the line was drawn between the two groups. They were all in their mid-to late twenties with good educations, but they valued different things."

FireBeyondonJune 18, 2018

> After reading Bad Blood as well ... No patients were harmed.

You apparently didn't read it very well. Patients went to ERs, had drug dosages changed, invasive tests and procedures performed as a result of these results.

> It's Theranos's investors and Theranos's business partners that are mostly at fault. They didn't do their due diligence

And it's probably the FDA's fault, too, right? You know, since they should have known that a locked and partly covered side door to a lab is where the Theranos equipment really was, and that the lab they were inspecting had been carefully prepared and "sanitized" for their benefit, and Theranos hoped that if this wasn't uncovered they'd be certified based on the "prepared" lab. Balwani and Holmes forbidding anyone from using the real lab, or going through that door when inspectors were on-site was... "just hoping that it would work", not actively deceptive and fraudulent, right? What due diligence might have helped discover that?

banjo_milkmanonDec 23, 2018

Books I liked in 2018:

Crashed by Adam Tooze ; history of the financial crisis, goes into more detail than most of the others

The Future of Capitalism by Paul Collier; lots of ideas on how to improve our situation, most of them are good, UK focused

Bad Blood by John Carreyrou; if you've ever been in a startup you'll recognize bits of this story, but it quickly gets out of control in novel ways. Astonishing story.

What Money Can't Buy: The Moral Limits of Markets by Michel Sandel

The Attention Merchants by Tim Wu

Who we are and how we got here by David Reich: ancient DNA and human history

The Book of Why by Judea Pearl; liked it but I need to reread this one a few more times to comprehend completely or go to his textbooks

Empire of Cotton: Sven Birckets; a history of the first global technology including how it made the UK & USA rich

The Away Game: The Epic Search for Soccer's Next Superstar by Sebastian Abbot

maxxxxxonSep 5, 2018

I just finished Bad Blood and one thing I have noticed is that how much you can get away with if you have mastered the art of talking to powerful people. It seems they could have figured out much earlier that Theranos was a fraud if anybody had ever bothered to take a closer look. Even when some people started having doubts Holmes always was able to take herself out of it. Instead the whistleblowers got treated badly. The Shultz situation was especially frustrating to read.

This reminds me a little of a situation at work. We have a director who everybody outside management knows he is full of sh.t. He never delivers anything and when you get the chance to talk to VP or CEO they agree that he needs to go. But then they talk to him and he always gets a second chance. This guy gets much more face time with our CEO then anybody else I know.

cyberjunkieonDec 12, 2018

For someone who didn't read at all for the longest and started a couple of years back, I'm glad I read 20 books this year. Here are the few that stuck with me -

Bad Blood (John Carreyrou) - Story of Theranos, its founders and the conception of terrible ideas. Great record of their actions based on subjective ethics and morals, how they can lead you to going insane.

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking (Susan Cain) - Fun read for functional introverts like myself.

Stuff Matters (Mark Miodownik) - I wish every science lesson is taught like this

Em and the Big Hoon (Naresh Fernandes) - Fiction, but based closely on the author's mother, her control over the English language, poetry and the mental illness' control over her and their family here in Bombay.

Born a Crime (Trevor Noah) - A biography of the Daily Show host. He's seen a lot of terrible situations and come out unscathed!

Being Mortal (Atul Gawande) - Hospice care - all its good and bad.

A Man Called Ove - Fictional and funny book about a man with a strict code, who lost his beloved wife and still dislikes everyone.

bloodhounderonSep 5, 2018

Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything.

...except when it involves investor's money.

Some takeaways after reading Bad Blood:

1. Listen to people.

2. If you're 19 with a great idea and investors willing to support it, ask for help.

3. Cumulative moral lapses will become a slippery slope.

4. If you're building something to sell to the medical industry, for goodness sake get some medical professionals in there.

5. Don't learn your leadership techniques from a Steve Jobs biography.

6. Don't sleep with someone and make them president of the company (or vice-versa).

7. Strive for diverse opinions instead of some yes men (and groupthink).

8. Fabricating results that can impact human lives will bring on the free press, the FDA, the SEC, and the FBI like a sack of bricks.

save_ferrisonDec 12, 2018

Bad Blood should be required reading for startup founders and those that work in startups generally. I had so many flashbacks to prior companies I worked for when reading about some the ethical issues that were raised in this book.

Their big mistake was trying to use the "move fast and break things" mentality in biotech. If Holmes had started an ad company instead, she'd be lauded for her entrepreneurial accomplishments instead of being under investigation by the Feds.

dansoonMay 22, 2018

Relevant excerpt from the book:

> ED WAS WORKING late one evening when Elizabeth came by his workspace. She was frustrated with the pace of their progress and wanted to run the engineering department twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, to accelerate development. Ed thought that was a terrible idea. His team was working long hours as it was...

> Ed pushed back against Elizabeth’s proposal. Even if he instituted shifts, a round-the-clock schedule would make his engineers burn out, he told her. “I don’t care. We can change people in and out,” she responded. “The company is all that matters.”

Carreyrou, John. Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup (p. 28). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

fmsteinonJune 18, 2018

I disagree with this sentiment. After reading Bad Blood as well, I must say that nobody at the company deserves much punishment. It's Theranos's investors and Theranos's business partners that are mostly at fault. They didn't do their due diligence and simply assumed (hoped) that the technology worked. They were too concerned about missing out on the "big one", which clouded their judgement.

No patients were harmed. The only losers in this are the investors that invested in Theranos. Given that they blindly trusted the pitch, without verifying that the technology worked, that makes them very bad and unskilled investors.

Unskilled investors losing a lot of money is, in fact, a very good thing for the Silicon Valley ecosystem. It's how bad influencers are flushed out of the system.

bayindirhonDec 12, 2018

You're right. I've written that comment haphazardly and quickly, and forgot the authors of both books. Someone (like me) can archive this thread and get confused later. Worse he/she wouldn't be abe to find the intended books.

Hyperion Cantos is written by Dan Simmons. It's 4.5 books.

  - Hyperion
- The Fall of Hyperion
- Endymion
- The Rise of Endymion
- Orphans of the Helix (a novella in the same universe)

Bad Blood is written by John Carreyrou. It tells the story of Theranos' rise and fall & everything in between.

wpietrionJune 18, 2018

Is it more empty? I think it's easy to say something is empty when you're not the sort of person it's optimized to appeal to.

I just finished "Bad Blood", the book on Theranos. Given that it was a fraud, it was entirely empty. But it was designed to look substantial to Stanford deans and Valley VCs. Later the target shifted to other sorts of movers and shakers, including corporate titans and political bigwigs. They all got suckered, and some of them still don't know it.

I think Instagram influencers look shallow to me because their audience is people who value different things than I do. But I don't take that as a sign that I'm somehow better. Just that I have different weaknesses.

E.g., I spent years developing NeXT software because I drank the Jobs kool-aid. I didn't do that for hard-headed business reasons; I did it because the NeXT hardware and software was incredibly cool to young me. At the time, I would have smugly defended my choice as more rational than getting starry-eyed over a celebrity. In retrospect, I was wrong. I just fell for for something tuned for my weaknesses, just like we all do.

edmundhuberonJune 15, 2018

I'm very skeptical, of course I'm not as smart or as informed as many other people so what I'm saying might not mean anything.

1) if the idea is to impart all of the kinetic energy needed to get into LEO at once, on the ground, then you are talking ~17,000 MPH worth of KE (though truly, more, because of loss to drag). There's a reason why max-q is an important consideration in the design of space vehicles. The space shuttle reaches max-q at 30K feet, where the density of air is 3x less than at sea level. How do you design your vehicle so that it doesn't turn into dust when it hits 1 ATM at 17,000+ MPH?

2) the centripetal force on the vehicle, prior to launch, will be enormous. So in addition to not deforming and/or burning up the moment the vehicle hits the air, the vehicle also needs to be built sturdily enough to not get crushed while being accelerated.

I read Bad Blood a few weekends ago. Holmes hoodwinked investors who wanted to believe that a fairy tale technology could exist, by never publishing or otherwise allowing outside scrutiny of their technology. How is this company different?

sizzzzlerzonDec 23, 2018

* Bad Blood - John Carreyou

This has been listed multiple times. Depicts the darkside of the startup phenomena

* Chasing New Horizons - Alan Stern, David Grinspoon

Documents the people and machine that explored Pluto

* Sunburst and Luminary - Don Eyles

History of the Apollo guidance computer software from the man who wrote it

leapisonJuly 24, 2020

On a local level, the FCC paved the way for chain-based ownership of local stations in 2003, despite research suggesting it was a bad idea[1]. That being said, the US media is different on a national level- NYT, WashPo and WSJ (investigative journalism dept, not editorial board) have shown in the past their ability to leak private government documents, take anti-government stances, and generally resist authority. While yes, WashPo is owned by Bezos, I view this differently than other cases of "an oligarch buying a newspaper". While I think we'll always need to be wary and cognizant of his ownership, it seems for now that he's bought the Post for the same reason that other billionaires get their names on schools and museum wings. I recently read Bad Blood (story of Theranos), and I was struck by how brazen the WSJ's investigative journalism department was at pursuing the story through legal threats, government stonewalling (eventually seeking out leakers), and the consequence of making their own editorial board look like fools. I think the US's journalistic integrity and freedom still stands yet.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership_in_the_U...

pchristensenonJune 15, 2018

For anyone interested in the Theranos story, the reporter that wrote this article (John Carreyrou) is the same one whose investigation brought down Theranos. He wrote a book called "Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup" (https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Secrets-Silicon-Startup/dp/...). He was also recently on the podcast This Week in Startups to discuss Theranos: http://thisweekinstartups.com/john-carreyrou-bad-blood/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQYKVasMoY ).

Basically, Elizabeth Holmes wanted to be a billionaire and restore her family's fortune. She started a medical tech company but didn't include any scientists or doctors on her board. Demos and employment were tightly controlled by NDA, and structured so as few people as possible knew about the scam. Somewhere between 1-8M (10-100%) of blood tests Theranos performed on hacked machines from other companies are suspect or outright wrong. Her company rode the "unicorn" wave at just the right time to get lots of funding and publicity, even though it has been operating since 2006.

ciarannolanonJune 3, 2020

>I would argue that their actions contributed to the suicide of Ian Gibbons [...]

Anyone who has read Bad Blood [1] should have no doubt about this fact. They destroyed this man and lead him to suicide in order to try to save their house of cards.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Secrets-Silicon-Startup/dp/...

saryantonJuly 13, 2018

1) Devil Take the Hindmost: A History of Financial Speculation by Edward Chancellor

Everything from the tulip craze to the dotcom boom.

2) If I Understood You, Would I Have This Look On My Face? by Alan Alda

Alan Alda of MASH fame teaches you how to build more empathy and improve your communication skills.

3) Bad Blood by James Carreyou

Theranos. Enough said.

4) Directorate S: The C.I.A. and America's Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan by Steve Coll

I think of this as the last book in Coll's unofficial trilogy on Afghanistan. First up was Ghost Wars, a history of American involvement in Afghanistan from the Soviet invasion up to 2001. Second is his biography on the Bin Laden family. Last year he released Directorate S, a chronicle of American and Pakistani involvement post-9/11 primarily told through the lens of the Pakistani intelligence directorate tasked with influencing Afghanistan.

Coll has interviews with everyone from in-country CIA agents and foot soldiers who were on the ground all the way up to defense secretaries and military leaders, from both sides. An in-depth examination of what went wrong and why we're still stuck there.

5) Deep South: Four Seasons on Back Roads by Paul Theroux.

The greatest travel writer of the last half-century finally turns his attention homeward: the American Deep South. Four road trips over four seasons. He published an article in Smithsonian Magazine hitting the highlights: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/soul-south-180951861/

SwetDremsonJan 6, 2019

There's an example of this happening in the 2018 book Bad Blood by John Carreyrou. A doctor gets the scoop on what Theranos is developing and files a patent loosely based on what they understand Theranos to be developing. The patent was filed with the sole intention of using it against Theranos in the future when they release their product.
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