
How Not To Die: Discover the foods scientifically proven to prevent and reverse disease
Greger
4.7 on Amazon
79 HN comments

Children of Time
Adrian Tchaikovsky, Mel Hudson, et al.
4.5 on Amazon
78 HN comments

The Visual Display of Quantitative Information
Tufte and Edward R.
4.6 on Amazon
77 HN comments

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: The Definitive, 4th Edition
Betty Edwards
4.7 on Amazon
77 HN comments

Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die
Chip Heath and Dan Heath
4.6 on Amazon
77 HN comments

Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup
John Carreyrou, Will Damron, et al.
4.7 on Amazon
76 HN comments

Moby Dick: or, the White Whale
Herman Melville
4.3 on Amazon
75 HN comments

Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy
Cathy O'Neil
4.5 on Amazon
75 HN comments

House of Leaves
Mark Z. Danielewski
4.6 on Amazon
75 HN comments

The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance
W. Timothy Gallwey , Zach Kleiman, et al.
4.7 on Amazon
74 HN comments

The Communist Manifesto
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
4.3 on Amazon
74 HN comments

A Philosophy of Software Design
John Ousterhout
4.4 on Amazon
74 HN comments

The Left Hand of Darkness: 50th Anniversary Edition (Ace Science Fiction)
Ursula K. Le Guin , David Mitchell, et al.
4.4 on Amazon
72 HN comments

An Introduction to Statistical Learning: with Applications in R (Springer Texts in Statistics)
Gareth James , Daniela Witten , et al.
4.8 on Amazon
72 HN comments

Mastering Regular Expressions
Jeffrey E. F. Friedl
4.6 on Amazon
72 HN comments
cjsleponAug 28, 2016
clebioonJan 24, 2018
Noise, buzz, confusion, alarm, welcome.
"We came over the Gobrin Ice."
More noise, more voices, questions; they crowded in on us.
"Will you look to my friend?"
I thought I had said it, but Estraven had.
-- [The Left Hand of Darkness], Ursula K. Le Guin
EthanHeilmanonMar 13, 2019
pmoriartyonMar 13, 2019
waruonNov 17, 2010
"The Left Hand of Darkness" by Ursula K. Le Guin
JoerionOct 2, 2014
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_joint_winners_of_the_...
gjsteinonMay 12, 2020
Ursula K. Le Guin also appears down below; The Left Hand of Darkness was a profound read.
Emigre_onMay 8, 2021
whowouldathunkonJan 23, 2018
adriandonSep 2, 2015
Interesting. Did you like The Left Hand Of Darkness as well? How do you feel they compare?
I will check out Lavinia - thanks for the reco.
aquironMay 8, 2021
My other favourite is The Left Hand of Darkness.
moultanoonJuly 28, 2016
vishbaronJan 24, 2018
CrakeonFeb 15, 2013
squadm-nkeyonDec 31, 2020
I also read Dune this year and loved it and gave up on Dune Messiah. Will power through if things get better.
I really enjoyed Asimov's Foundation Series and Le Guin's Hainish books (specifically Dispossessed and Left Hand of Darkness) this year, check them out of if you haven't yet.
pavlovonNov 14, 2014
tjlonAug 28, 2016
zwiebackonMar 13, 2019
Reading this review I realize maybe I didn't read it closely enough or maybe I'm not invested enough in the topic.
dllthomasonDec 24, 2015
All worth reading, the last probably the least enduring.
jlebaronJan 23, 2018
JoerionJune 4, 2017
I found it by working my way through the list of joint nebula and hugo award winners (which is a really fun project, because all of them are amazing books). It is my favorite sci-fi book. It changes the way you look at gender, especially if you haven't questioned the concept much before.
int_19honApr 10, 2019
detritusonFeb 5, 2019
Some truly wonderful writing — actually beautiful in points — and grand ideas and vision. Heart too, which is often missing in sci-fi.
Contrast that with the very-oft promoted and recommended “The Three Body Problem” which makes many an appearance in HN, which I started the other night which is — bluntly — awfully written. It has some wonderful ideas, which is what has kept me from putting it down, but I've been cringing at how poor the dialogue and exposition often is. It's borderline amateur. imho, obv.
If you like Atwood's worlds, you'll probably like Le Guin's. If you simply deride their encouragement as 'SJW', you're probably pushing your own agenda.
pierrebaionOct 23, 2020
- Deepness in the Sky: super mustache twirling, one of the worst.
- Fire upon the Deep: I consider the blight to be twirling. Why treat lower civ that way? AFAIK, for mustache twirling.
- Iain M Banks: lotsa mustache twirling. Surface details and Player of Games in particular. My view of the culture AI is that they are constantly sarcastically toying with humans, and are thus secretly twirling.
- Fifth Season (Jemisin): no twirling. One of the most balanced novel on that front, every faction has believable reason to act the way they do.
- Book of the New Sun: no twirling, but OMG, stop what you're doing a good read these books! The tone and story was just perfect for me. Sure, it looks like a weird cross of SF and fantasy, but there is no fantasy at all in the novel in reality. Book of New Urth is, in comparison, just merely very good.
- Ancillary Justice (Lecki): some small twirling, but justified since it's an empire: absolute power corrupt. The twirling is commensurate with having a empress as head of state. She even becomes mostly sympathetic later.
- Left hand of Darkness: not only no twirling, but the power struggle is extremely believable. Great illustration of an interesting alien civilisation. Great for both world-building and character building. Another of those stop everything and just read it now novel.
- Roadside Picnic: no twirling. The conflicts and abuse of power are all believable.
- Collapsing Empire (Scalzi): lot of mustache twirling. Not DotS level, but not that far off. Plus, there is a plot point in the first novel that made me quit reading for a week. Incomprehensible because it was all of unbelievable (given the multiple characters behaviour before), idiotic and had zero impact on the rest of the book... so why write it. (Page 260 in my paperback version, for the record)
lucas_codesonMay 8, 2021
The way it examines what a genderless society might look like and the differences is incredibly intelligent, yet is just the setting - there's a thoroughly interesting plot over the top.
And the feminist bent (among other things) makes it feel incredibly modern - I remember being impressed it was written in 1969.
topaz0onMar 29, 2020
Arcadia, a play by Tom Stoppard, is fantastic. Good for many re-reads (and re-watches).
Ursula Le Guin (maybe The Left Hand of Darkness is my favorite?) might be the best sci-fi/fantasy ever written, as much as I love Lois McMaster Bujold (three worlds to choose from, each offering many more or less independent novels and novellas), who is also great.
A few more:
Sometimes a Great Notion, Ken Kesey.
My Antonia, Willa Cather.
Bluebeard, Kurt Vonnegut.
hyperion2010onJuly 25, 2015
mrobonAug 29, 2016
makomkonMar 19, 2021
libraryofbabelonMar 29, 2020
Ursula K. Le Guin, The Left Hand of Darkness. My favorite Le Guin (the Dispossessed is pretty good too). Shockingly original when it was published in 1969; the portrait of the society and culture on Gethen still feels unique. A slow burn at the beginning, but builds to a dramatic conclusion.
Patrick O'Brian, Aubrey-Maturin series. Probably the best historical fiction ever written. Rich tapestry of life during the Napoleonic Wars. Set in the Royal Navy during the Age of Sail, but that description doesn't do it justice; O'Brian's great inspiration was Jane Austen, and the focus is on characters and people, particularly the brilliantly contrasting personalities of the two main characters.
Vasily Grossman, Life and Fate. Like Tolstoy's War and Peace, but set in Russia during WWII. Explores the dark heart of the 20th century (the Battle of Stalingrad, concentration camps, the gulag) through the eyes of a wide cast of characters from different walks of life. Grossman wrote about Stalingrad from firsthand experience as a war journalist, and is able to uncover moments of hope and human kindness amid horrifying world-historical events.
Books others have already mentioned:
* Tolstoy, War and Peace and Anna Karenina.
* Mikhail Bulgakov, The Master and Margarita (interesting how several people mention this one; I used to think it was my own private discovery).
* Neal Stephenson, especially Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle
And the obligatory Tolkien and Douglas Adams that I read and re-read as a teenager.
revelonFeb 5, 2019
Just to be clear, I liked the 3BP series a lot. The books are generally paced well and there's just about the right amount of world building. However, the long expository monologues break up the flow. It's a shame because it's a great story and he tells it well. Those who have read the books will recognize his over reliance on on a particularly lazy storytelling device to introduce ideas which I can best summarize as follows: "here is this idea and this is why it's important and here's all the nuances to it so then this next idea came about and this is why it's important." That's bad writing. Making the characters academics so that Liu Cixuin can dress up his ideas as "theories" in this way is wholly unconvincing and, as you said, amateurish.
By contrast, Le Guin is masterful at weaving her ideas into the narrative of the story. Ideas are not introduced as standalone concepts and then referenced by the story. Instead, they are woven into the fabric of the story itself. This makes the ideas more compelling and keeps the narrative brisk and interesting. On the other hand, Le Guin often spends far too much time world building. The Left Hand of Darkness is one of my favorite books, but the first half of the book plods on rather painfully. The second half feels like a reward for slogging through the first half.
Not sure if you've read The Dispossessed but I think it's better than TLHOD. It still has a bit too much world building in the first half but it's a tighter and more compactly told tale. Her most tightly told tale is probably The Lathe of Heaven. That book was incredible and I think it showcases her literary skill better than some of her more famous books. Definitely check it out some time if you liked her other work.
Barrin92onFeb 7, 2021
A lot of Borges stories come to mind. Stanislaw Lem's work like Solaris, on moral issues surely Nabokov's Lolita or Ada or Ardor. The Master and Margarita in the Soviet Union, Le Guin's the Left Hand of Darkness with takes on sexuality way ahead of their time and so on. If I go through my list of favourite books there's a lot of those.
drstins_nonMay 12, 2020
sdlonOct 17, 2016
-Ursula K. Le Guin, The Left Hand of Darkness
sdevoidonJuly 13, 2018
I read her translation of Tao Te Ching while waiting in 2 hours of traffic for a ferry and it was wonderful and really informs the rest of her works.
I'm currently reading Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner, on the history of U.S. water policy in the West. Frustratingly dry.
Also re-reading On the Road but unlike 16 years ago I'm reading the 'Original Scroll Edition' this time: no chapters, paragraph breaks, invented character names, censors, etc. The book you read in high school is, in fact, the novelization of the original, which Kerouac wrote in twenty days. I've kept my beat-up paperback copy of the 'novel' nearby and I've preferred the scroll edition for the most part.
On the nightstand:
- Annals of the Former World by John McPhee 300 pages into it, but I got a bit tired of the redundancy inherent in combining multiple books into one.
- The Vulgar Tongue by Jonathon Green. 40 pages in. I've been looking for a copy of the dictionary.
- The Path to the Nest of Spiders by Italo Calvino.
taejoonJuly 12, 2018
PxtlonMar 19, 2021
... but for aspiring writers, there is a problem. On the one hand, writers should write what they know. They shouldn't try to assume they know some minority's lived experiences.
On the other hand, literature should be inclusive. That means including minorities, and not just as peripheral characters. We don't need more My Magical Gay Friend stories.
I haven't heard a good discussion on how to reconcile this contradiction. The only avenue that leaves is for straight white people to stop writing, and, y'know: No.
The outrage does seem selective. I mean, one of the seminal classics of science-fiction literature on the subject of gender - and a very popular book among feminist readers - is The Left Hand of Darkness, by Ursula K. LeGuin. And I've never heard anyone complain that she wrote a black protagonist, despite not having black experiences. But on the other hand, The Left Hand of Darkness isn't much about the black experience. It's more of a travelogue of a genderless society.
So maybe that's the distinction?
American Dirt isn't just about a Mexican, it's a story of the Mexican-American immigration experience. And maybe it's right that stories like that should be written by people who're closer to them?
jessaustinonAug 30, 2019
In the past, whenever someone got pissed off enough to make a stink about some challenging detail of scifi, most fans just laughed at them. We should do that still. It's fine to criticize the less evolved assumptions embedded in old "space opera"-type stuff (or, really, more recent stuff like The Windup Girl, yeesh...), and it's fine to have tastes that don't perfectly mesh with such progressive authors as e.g. Miéville, so long as we don't take our own feelings too seriously.
[0] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9weLK2AJ9JEt2Tt8f/politics-i...
minncaonApr 8, 2020
notahackeronNov 20, 2018
And also, sometimes they were far more right about the details they threw in to be vaguely believable and less on the money about what they really cared about, like HG Wells' plot device for a world in which war was impossible which is believed to have been what inspired Szilard to create an actual atomic bomb (whilst the thrust of the book failed to convince enough of the right people of the merits of a World State). And Solution Unsatisfactory is uncannily closer still...
marnettonNov 6, 2018
I think if you watch an interview with DFW you will realize just how much he has thought of just about every facet of modern, entertainment-centric western society - all coming together in Infinite Jest which is the most depressing book I've ever read (he later committed suicide, so it might have been the most depressing contemporary book ever written either). Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness models an entire planetary civilization with no fixed sex (written in 1969, mind you), which I found very eye-opening. Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov (as well as Crime and Punishment) are extraordinarily psychological and philosophical - ethics, free will, and God are centric. Both Steinbeck and Vonnegut have multiple books I'd recommend, but East of Eden by Steinbeck is an all-time favorite tackling good and evil (honestly Nietzsche in novel); Slaughterhouse 5 by Vonnegut (just a notch above Heller's Catch-22) is the embodiment of darkness and absurdity. Take an anti-war sentiment and an author willing to tiptoe to the border of sanity and insanity and the result is SH5. It is truly brilliant, and as someone who is fortunate enough to not have ever been impacted greatly by wartime, it is equally eye-opening.
Honorable mention (a book I have read more recently) goes to Tom Wolfe with The Bonfire of the Vanities. This book combines the legal system (police and prosecutors), personal greed and ambition (Wall Street bond salesman), racism (Media biases), and class structures and privilege in a hard hitting social critique on 80s New York City. Everything between its covers is key to understanding how the world actually works.
This turned out to be a lot longer than I anticipated. Hopefully it is helpful!
demallienonMar 19, 2008
Hyperion is basically just a brilliant story, very enjoyable to read.
That said, if I was to criticise Hyperion, it would be that it doesn't fulfill very well one of the important functions of science fiction - the examination of the impact of technology on society.
Which leads to my second recommendation - The Left Hand of Darkness, by Ursula Le Guin. Le Guin in general is excellent for examining in depth the effects that small changes in technology may have on human society - it follows naturally I guess from the fact that her father was an anthropologist...
scottbcovertonMar 13, 2019
Well put; this was one of the things I enjoyed most about the book as well. I began reading fully expecting to be immersed in the Gethenians' world and their foreign culture, just as Mr. Ai did at the start of his journey. By the end though I realized Le Guin had used these "aliens" to show Mr. Ai and the reader what it truly meant to be human.
The fact that some others here feel that LHoD was not Le Guin's best work makes me excited to read her other books!
dllthomasonJan 4, 2016
jeffersonheardonSep 2, 2017
Getting Things Done - David Allen. If you have adult ADHD like me, and you haven't read this, it's the first system that's really worked for productivity for me.
Man's Search for Meaning - Victor Frankl.
Living Buddha, Living Christ - Thich Nhat Hanh.
Cosmos - Carl Sagan.
The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K. LeGuin.
The One who Walks Away from Omelas - U.K. LeGuin.
Wild Seed - Octavia Butler.
The Heike Monogatari - (tr. Helen Craig McCullough) “The sound of the Gion Shoja temple bells echoes the impermanence of all things; the color of the sala flowers reveals the truth that to flourish is to fall. The proud do not endure, like a passing dream on a night in spring; the mighty fall at last, to be no more than dust before the wind.” If you need a comparison. this is the Japanese historical equivalent of Game of Thrones combined with a bit of MacBeth. The rise and fall of two shogunate families, and an analysis of the tragic flaws of character that brought their fall about.
Les Miserables - Victor Hugo.
Small Gods - Terry Pratchett.
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad.
The Guide - R. K. Narayan.
Evidence - Mary Oliver.
All of Us - The Collected Poetry of Raymond Carver.
Silence - Shusaku Endo.
The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald.
The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle - Murakami Haruki. This and the next four are odd choices, perhaps, since it's a surrealist book, but IMO books that force your imagination to work hard do as much for creativity and fresh ideas as any of the more popular methods.
The Well-Built City (The Physiognomy / Memoranda / The Beyond) Jeffery Ford - Surrealist novellas best described as about the protagonist living and achieving agency within the constructs, dreams, and nightmares of a "Great Man's" mind.
Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson.
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon.
Dhalgren - Samuel L. "Chip" Delany.
InclinedPlaneonJan 10, 2011
"Singularity Sky" by Charles Stross
"The Player of Games" by Iain M Banks
JNRoweonFeb 26, 2020
If, like me, you're aware of how prolific¹ she was but have yet to dip in, where would you start?
Edit: Thanks! Looks like The Left Hand Of Darkness wins so far.
1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin_bibliograp...
labsteronJan 24, 2018
Storytelling is the greatest tool we have for passing down wisdom to the next generation. Ursula LeGuin, we celebrate what you have taught us and will continue to teach us, and we mourn your passing.
sampoonAug 29, 2016
Clarke and others established the mainstream of modern scifi: spaceships, advanced technology, robots etc. I do 100% agree that most of this genre has been done better later, and especially Clarke suffers from this.
Le Guin's scifi is ...different. Her emphasis is not on technobabble or flashy new gadgets. Her style is ...anthropologic. Technology and space travel are there, but in the background. And this line and tradition of scifi has received much less modern attention, compared to the mainstream.
So while Clarke has been surpassed many times in his chosen style, I don't think anyone has surpassed Le Guin in her style. Not that I am aware of anyone even having tried, really.
Just grab one of Le Guin's books (The Left Hand of Darkness is the most famous) and see if you like her style. I think it's still unique.
jccalhounonAug 20, 2020
There were a few scifi books by women that I read and didn't like but here are some I did like:
I've read a few Ursula K. Le Guin books and they were decent. All I knew about Left Hand of Darkeness was the stuff about sex and the midevil-ish setting surprised me.
I read a couple entries in The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells and I might go back to read more.
I really liked Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie. The two sequels were good but less thought provoking than the first one. I think there is another story in the same universe that I haven't read yet.
bsderonSep 2, 2015
I slogged through "The Left Hand of Darkness". I was bored most of the time. And the whole gender thing felt very hamfisted and very at odds with real biology (reproduction generally tends to shut down when organisms are under extreme stress and need to conserve energy).
However, I do recognize that I am reading it in a different time from when it was written.
tigerlilyonFeb 5, 2019
teh_klevonMay 8, 2021
I decided I'd start reading her scifi novels in near chronological order and began with The Left Hand of Darkness which I found devastatingly good. This is the one mentioned in the interview where Genly Ai the observer is embedded on a planet where the humanoid species are in the main genderless and only become male or female during a period of "kemmer" to reproduce. I can't do it justice here but I couldn't put the book down.
Next up were the three previous novels; Rocannon's World, Planet of Exile and City of Illusions. These are contained in a handy single volume published under the S.F. Masterworks imprint. All of these are also excellent novels, if a little short.
I've just started The Dispossessed and thus far it's holding my attention.
I think if you've never considered reading Le Guin's scifi then I can definitely recommend from the limited sampling I gotten through so far. Some folks might be put off by how old these novels are, but Le Guin cleverly shy's away from using technology as a plot driver (perhaps with the exception of the "ansible") so they don't feel dated. Her writing and story telling is as fresh today as it probably was back in the 60's and 70's.
Also, and I almost forgot, Le Guin's short story "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" which is quite disturbing and thought provoking.
adriandonSep 2, 2015
The follow-up, The Dispossessed, I thought was much weaker and less interesting and in fact I couldn't even finish it, which was odd given how much I loved Darkness. But in general she's a more intelligent, perceptive, engaging and literary writer than many of her (usually male) science fiction counterparts, whose work is often barely readable (flimsy characters, lousy dialogue) or is reminiscent of what you'd expect if you asked a teenage boy to write the plot to a science fiction action movie (e.g. much of Neal Stephenson's work).
I read The Telling quite recently and enjoyed it as well. The Earthsea fantasy series is also excellent.
jonnycomputeronJan 25, 2018
Ursula Le Guin's is daughter of Alfred and Theodora Kroeber. Alfred Kroeber is a preeminent figure in the history of American anthropology and archeology, along with his PhD adviser Franz Boas. The influence of anthropology on Le Guin's writing and thought are easily seen in the Left Hand of Darkness, one of my favorite sci-fi novels.
kijinonDec 24, 2016
Margaret Atwood is another author who doesn't get mentioned a lot around here but whose works of SF(she prefers "speculative fiction" to "sci-fi") I've enjoyed a lot. Her MaddAddam trilogy is weird but entertaining. You'll probably either love it or hate it. Many of her other works focus on issues of sex and gender in various past and future settings, some fictional, some historical.
Of course, I as well as a lot of other commenters in this thread are assuming that you'll be into sci-fi and fantasy, because that's what most computer geeks like. But even if you aren't a sci-fi fan, Le Guin and Atwood aren't typical sci-fi, so you might find them interesting anyhow.
andymoeonApr 5, 2009
JtsummersonMar 13, 2019
Le Guin's parents were anthropologists. Her mother wrote two books about Ishi, last of the Yahi tribe. One novelized accounting of his life and another non-fiction accounting of his entering into the world of the US in the 1910s and the work Ursula Le Guin's father did with him.
When viewed from this anthropologist lens, Left Hand of Darkness and other books are fascinating. She makes a world, a history, a people, and she occupies it. Then she explores that world with the characters. LHoD does this in a very literal sense (with a foreign character learning along with us, the readers). I think that's one of the things that I most enjoyed while reading her books.
AnIdiotOnTheNetonJuly 23, 2021
Anything by Greg Egan is probably going to be the hardest sci-fi you've ever read. Dude wrote a book where he considered the ramifications of a universe built on a positive-definite Riemannian metric, and another one where the universe has 2 time dimensions.
Robert L. Forward's Dragon's Egg explores what life might look like if it evolved on a neutron star.
Adrian Tchaikovsky's Children of Time and Children of Ruin explore the evolution of other earth species if they were given a kick towards sapience.
Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep is half space adventure (not very hard) and half an exploration of a lifeform which only achieves sapience in small groups. A Deepness in the Sky is generally harder and explores a lot of things, including the power of focused human attention, the difficulty of galactic scale civilization, and alien life evolved in a star system where the star periodically dims.
Steven Baxter and Clarke collaborated on The Light of Other Days, which explores the technical and sociological consequences of a device which allows you to see the past.
With a broad interpretation of 'hard' I can highly recommend Ursula Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed, which have soft science but hard humanity.
Similarly The Long Earth series, a collaboration between Pratchett and Baxter, where it seems Baxter handles the sociological and technological consequences of the science while Pratchett handles the characters and philosophy.
Asimov's I, Robot is an exploration of what happens when you try to constrain intelligence with rules.
Asimov's Foundation Trilogy gets a lot of hype, but it isn't very hard and I also found it utterly mediocre. Instead I recommend The God's Themselves, which is so good it's like Asimov was channeling a much better writer to get his ideas down. It explores the limited interaction of our universe with one that has slightly different physical properties.
Also perhaps stretching the definition of 'hard', but I want to recommend it because it's relatively unknown, is Leonard Richardson's Constellation Games, in which an incredibly advanced multi-species anarchic alien civilization makes first contact with humanity, and the protagonist really just wants to play their video games. It's actually harder sci-fi than it sounds.
ww520onNov 3, 2010
Robert Heinlein's books are great. Some come to mine are The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, Starship Troopers (much better than the movies), Stranger in a Strange Land, Double Stars, and The Puppet Masters.
Ursula K. Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness is amazing. The Earthsea series are fun read if you want to get beyond SciFi.
mordantonDec 24, 2016
>Margaret Atwood is another author who doesn't get mentioned a lot around here but whose works of SF(she prefers "speculative fiction" to "sci-fi") I've enjoyed a lot. Her MaddAddam trilogy is weird and preachy. You'll probably hate it. Her other works focus on SJW ranting about issues of sex and gender in various past and future settings, some fictional, some historical.
>Of course, I as well as a lot of other commenters in this thread are assuming that you'll be into ham-handed left-wing message fiction, because that's what we like.
>Le Guin and Atwood are typical ur-SJWs, so you might find them pretentious and tendentious.
FTFY.
billjingsonMar 13, 2019
But that's not what I used to say. I used to say that The Dispossessed was my favorite, and that the Left Hand of Darkness is overrated.
My opinion has flipped over the years. I now give Left Hand the edge, and I think that it's because the books are about such different topics.
The Dispossessed is all about matters I was concerned with when I was a younger man: the relationship of one's work with the world, and the ethics of the larger systems we operate in. It's a lot like other sci-fi books: a treatment of an idea, where the characterization (although strong for the genre) is secondary.
But The Left Hand of Darkness is, at its heart, about the relationship between Genly Ai and Estraven. The core sequence of the novel, the trek across the ice sheet, is beautiful and memorable as a depiction of a setting, but also as an exploration of human intimacy, with the device of Gethenian sexuality used as a kind of scalpel to shed light on how male and female shades our relations.
I used to think that the big ideas were what mattered. But the older I get, the more I appreciate that the big ideas are just extensions of what happens between individuals. The Dispossessed uses this technique as well, of course, but the intimacy of Left Hand just hits harder for me these days.
angersockonAug 22, 2015
Author glosses over Watchmen, Stranger in a Strange Land, Neuromancer, The Stand, Snowcrash, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, The Left Hand of Darkness, and several others that actually had some very interesting things to say on gender roles and treatment of minorities.
Author also ignores entirely the actual depiction of homosexuality and gender roles in The Forever War, and the various ways the protagonist treats (and is treated by!) them.
Author was clearly looking to be offended, and in their zeal ignored both things that countered their position (not surprising) and things that would've substantiated it!
Lucifer's Hammer, for example, can be read to literally depict African Americans and urban youths as savage cannibals. It's a good story otherwise, but there is certainly some facepalming in there.
john-radioonDec 16, 2019
"The Left Hand of Darkness" by Ursula Le Guin
"This Is How You Lose The Time War" by Amal El-Mohtar
"Priestdaddy" by Patricia Lockwood
"Black Leopard, Red Wolf" by Marlon James
"Consider Phlebas," and maybe the rest of The Culture series of novels, by Iain Banks
muriculaonJan 24, 2018
Le Guinn explores social and political questions overlooked by those who came before, and has had a profound impact on those who came after. The recent Hugo winner Ancillary Justice was heavily inspired by Winter, for instance.
sjclemmyonJan 24, 2018
I hadn’t really thought to look at her other books since then (which is probably about 35 years). I’ll definintely be reading “The Left Hand of Darkness” and “The Dispossessed” due to the comments on here. Thanks HN!
And thank you U.K. LeGuin for introducing me to a world of ideas and possibilities.
ArchaeumonJan 8, 2011
nkorenonJan 24, 2018
Anyhow, the Left Hand of Darkness and the Dispossessed are great books. I actually didn't get into the Wizard of Earthsea for some reason, but this was probably a problem with my teenage brain; I need to go back and give it another chance. I'm also very partial to her short stories, with The Birthday of the World containing several of my favourites.
loudmaxonJan 24, 2018
FargrenonOct 28, 2013
[1]Full text here: http://somethingcompletelydifferent.wordpress.com/2011/02/15...
Terr_onJune 10, 2018
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Left_Hand_of_Darkness
Edit: Ah, the reference is explicit inside the linked PDF, but I'll leave this up for anybody else is ctrl-f-ing to satisfy the same curiosity.
metaphormonMar 6, 2017
- Blindsight and Echopraxia by Peter Watts
- The Tao Te Ching
- The Gateless Gate (Koun Yamada translation/editing)
- The Baroque Cycle (Quicksilver, The Confusion, The System of the World) by Neal Stephenson
- The Invisibles by Grant Morrison
- Incerto (Fooled by Randomness, The Black Swan, Antifragile, The Bed of Procrustes) by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
- Iron John by Robert Bly
- Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
- The Character of Physical Law by Richard P. Feynman
- Collected Fictions by Jorge Luis Borges
- 100 Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
- Pharmakon by Dale Pendell
- The Butter Battle Book by Dr. Seuss
- Greek Mythology by Edith Hamilton
- The Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual by Gary Gygax et al
- Introduction to Algorithms by Charles E. Leiserson, Clifford Stein, Ronald Rivest, and Thomas H. Cormen