Designing Data-Intensive Applications: The Big Ideas Behind Reliable, Scalable, and Maintainable Systems
Martin Kleppmann
4.8 on Amazon
241 HN comments
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies
Jared Diamond Ph.D.
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239 HN comments
Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World
Cal Newport
4.6 on Amazon
239 HN comments
Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
Robert C. Martin
4.7 on Amazon
232 HN comments
Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity
David Allen and Simon & Schuster Audio
4.5 on Amazon
231 HN comments
The Three-Body Problem
Cixin Liu, Luke Daniels, et al.
4.3 on Amazon
225 HN comments
Neuromancer
William Gibson, Robertson Dean, et al.
4.4 on Amazon
218 HN comments
Harry Potter: Hogwarts Hardcover Journal and Elder Wand Pen Set
Insight Editions
4.8 on Amazon
212 HN comments
Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software
Erich Gamma , Richard Helm , et al.
4.7 on Amazon
208 HN comments
How to Read a Book: The Classic Guide to Intelligent Reading
Mortimer J. Adler and Charles Van Doren
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193 HN comments
Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind
Yuval Noah Harari, Derek Perkins, et al.
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The Intelligent Investor: The Definitive Book on Value Investing. A Book of Practical Counsel (Revised Edition)
Benjamin Graham , Jason Zweig , et al.
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Code: The Hidden Language of Computer Hardware and Software
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Seveneves: A Novel
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Cracking the Coding Interview: 189 Programming Questions and Solutions
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180 HN comments
qznconJune 22, 2015
mandoronApr 28, 2014
- Effective C++: http://www.amazon.com/Effective-Specific-Improve-Programs-De...
ryanyoganonJuly 3, 2014
cpetersoonMar 26, 2012
konslonMar 4, 2008
strlenonJune 18, 2008
mcvonJuly 21, 2021
I mean, they're great when applied correctly, but someone looking specifically to apply design patterns will often end up CCPing.
enterxonMay 18, 2014
Read Refactoring first than read Design Patterns(GoF).
maxxxxxonFeb 5, 2019
gitgudonJune 27, 2019
1. Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software
2. Clean Code
3. The Pragmatic Programmer
They've helped immensely from working with small functions to the organisation of systems and systems of systems.
bltonFeb 3, 2013
rcavezzaonMar 18, 2019
Design Patterns is also very well known https://www.amazon.com/Design-Patterns-Elements-Reusable-Obj...
pettinatoonDec 9, 2011
Hadoop: The Definitive Guide - for fun
Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software - for work
Effective C++ by Scott Meyers - for work
More Effective C++ by Scott Meyers - for work
kap7onJune 30, 2021
- Clean Architecture
- Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software
- Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software
- Clean Agile
and forget the rest. Life is short and those books are more than enough.
re_toddonJuly 24, 2016
jsmartonlyonJan 1, 2012
And that is very good book for this important subject.
Good luck!
ahmedfarookionFeb 15, 2012
flavio81onOct 6, 2017
This is one of the best criticisms of Design Patterns i've ever read. Great point.
TremendousJudgeonAug 29, 2017
Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software was published in 1994 while Java 1.0 was published in 1996 right?
asdffdsaonMay 13, 2019
rusticoonMar 3, 2017
shwaonAug 29, 2011
Then again, a major pitfall of Design Patterns is that everything starts to look like the patterns you already know, which essentially boxes in your design process. Apply the knowledge at your own peril.
owenjonesonJuly 10, 2013
gitgudonFeb 1, 2020
[1] "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software"
grabcocqueonFeb 8, 2017
gnaritasonJuly 24, 2017
Refactoring by Martin Fowler. Design Patterns by the Gang of Four. Domain Driven Design by Eric Evans.
theteapotonAug 9, 2021
If your gonna pick three books on OOP it should include Design Patterns at the top of the list. At least if you want to understand why OO is a thing people still use and talk about.
bryanrasmussenonApr 24, 2020
mferonOct 21, 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
rwmjonMay 22, 2018
rwillystyleonApr 5, 2012
thornkinonDec 3, 2010
azylmanonDec 7, 2011
munificentonMay 23, 2020
mwbrooksonApr 26, 2009
Personally, I use 'Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software.' However, Wikipedia or this website are fine.
Can anyone comment on sourcemaking.com's 'Design Patterns - Simply'?
robinphilip1989onJuly 25, 2017
Design patterns by GoF
Code Complete by Steve McConnel
rancuronOct 14, 2015
runakoonFeb 8, 2017
Based on my recollection of the original Design Patterns book, all of the patterns you list are included in the original book. Caveat: I haven't opened the book in over 5 years, but I'd be surprised to learn that any of the 6 patterns you list are not in the original DP.
NitiononFeb 8, 2017
zxvonApr 27, 2016
At the time, it felt like a huge leap forward in ease of writing native GUI apps for X. The point being, C++ was a medium for lots of great ideas, including one of the early Design Patterns books [1].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterViews
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
SamuelAdamsonJune 24, 2020
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
specialistonApr 24, 2020
Source: started design patterns study group, still active today.
DonaldFiskonFeb 8, 2017
detaroonAug 28, 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
jlaoonDec 6, 2011
specialistonDec 15, 2019
What do people think of Social Architecture, Pieter Hintjens' ideas for building successful open source software?
Collective Code Construction Contract
https://rfc.zeromq.org/spec:42/C4/
https://legacy.gitbook.com/book/hintjens/social-architecture...
http://hintjens.com/books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Hintjens
--
Hintjens' worldview appeals to me.
I've done a bit of activism, with (very) modest success. A Design Patterns book club I started 20 years ago continues today; we somehow stumbled on a sustainable format.
Not having any successful OSS projects of my own (yet), I can't say if Hintjens' ideas work. I hope to find out.
ThiagoBurgosonJune 4, 2011
isaachieronMar 12, 2018
JoeAltmaieronDec 11, 2019
Design Patterns (Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software), Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, John Vlissides, 1995]
Same year Java was invented. Hard to imagine Java inspired it.
munificentonAug 5, 2020
The Gang of Four took that concept, hunted down a set of patterns they found in software architecture, and wrote "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software" based on it, one of the most famous books in programming.
garethspriceonApr 18, 2017
The Mythical Man-Month by Fred Brooks for tech management.
Confessions of an Advertising Man by David Ogilvy for advertising/marketing industry.
Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software by the "Gang of Four" for OOP software engineering.
tatterdemaliononOct 26, 2014
A lot of the comments remind me of patterns from A Pattern Language by Christopher Alexander. I'm sure many people on HN know this book from the preface to Design Patterns, but if you've never flipped through it you really should - any single pattern contains a great deal of insight into how we live in the world.
intrepidheroonJan 27, 2021
PS. Highly recommend that book BTW. Especially (and somewhat ironically) for people designing new systems. Everything is eventually legacy. :-)
f2enderonJan 25, 2011
I recently got through the Design Patterns book. I was thinking of picking up either a new language (Go) or start the "Mastering Regular Expressions" book, not sure which.
douglaswlanceonDec 16, 2019
The best books I've ever read:
cbm-vic-20onMar 18, 2019
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Pattern_Language
BJaneckeonJuly 25, 2017
* Fred Brooks - Design Of Design
* Fred Brooks - The Mythical Man month
* Eric J. Evans - Domain Driven Design
* Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software
* Kent Beck - Extreme Programming Explained
* Kent Beck - Planning Extreme Programming
* Michael C. Feathers - Working Effectively with Legacy Code
* Daniel Kahneman - Thinking, Fast and Slow
[EDIT] Correct the author for legacy code
xliionNov 18, 2020
One of the best programming books I read was UML Distilled (which introduced the idea of some pattern beside teaching UML) and Design Patterns (Shalloway, Trott).
The moment I started reading this post I thought “that’s a strategy pattern use case”. And that’s the conclusion.
A lot of people fret upon reinventing the wheel (use library instead!) but then they do so very often with the software design where a lot of problems are not only well researched but also peer reviewed and properly described with consequences that come with them.
If you enjoyed this article I would recommend picking up book on design patterns (any popular will do) as there are many more prefabricated solutions to choose from.
vram22onApr 2, 2017
JTrilogyonNov 27, 2016
My current reading list:
* Code Complete: A Practical Handbook of Software Construction - Steve McConnell
* Agile Software Development - Robert C. Martin
Upcoming reading list:
* Node.js Design Patterns - Mario Casciaro
* The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman to Master - Andrew Hunt
* Clean Code - Robert C. Martin
* Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code - Martin Fowler
And maybe Working Effectively with Legacy Code by Michael Feathers.
If anyone has any comments or other suggested readings I'd love to hear them!
smyatkin_maximonJune 7, 2017
Personally:
- Code complete
- Pragmatic programmer
- Design patterns
- Programming pearls
- If you're going for hardcore programming: the dragon book, something on modern hardware and something on OS internals.
orclevonJune 22, 2014
fusiongyroonJuly 24, 2017
I did love Design Patterns a lot though. Purely Functional Data Structures by Chris Okasaki was also really useful for Haskell, as was Real World Haskell.
Programming Prolog probably had a bigger influence on my Prolog than the other books, even though I read Art of Prolog and Prolog Programming in Depth first. Especially the latest edition, it's a really beautiful book.
[0]: http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/andres-valloud/a-mentoring-co...
Privacy846onDec 19, 2020
Other languages, like e.g. Rust (because of lack of HKT), cannot express monads like Haskell can.
But yeah, you can definitely call it a design pattern if that’s what the culture around the language is like. But it would be like Java folks calling interfaces with default implementations for something goofy like “Interface with stateless implementations pattern”, and even they don’t go that far.
pumanoironNov 19, 2017
All the head first books I have read (Java, Design Patterns, Android, C, Ruby) have very high quality content. I have read great books on all these subjects along HFs. i.e. The Design Patterns Smalltalk Companion, K&R, etc. The HF books really help visualize and actually enjoy the subjects, they also have great exercises that help to cement the concepts one has just learned. If any of the HF authors read this, thanks for these books, they have help us a great deal.
ZababaonAug 10, 2021
TichyonApr 6, 2008
I also had situations where "Design Patterns" helped me find a solution. Of course I also experienced the IT Manager who wanted to see Design Patterns everywhere, no matter if they were useful or not. But that is not the fault of the book.
stinosonSep 7, 2012
ArzhonMay 19, 2016
diego_moitaonDec 23, 2019
Code Complete is a problematic book. It has some good ideas but also has some very bad ones (cone of uncertainty, 10 times productivity in good programmers, etc).
Design Patterns is mostly obsolete. Functional programming techniques made a lot of Object Oriented techniques irrelevant (e.g.: observer pattern vs callbacks with lambdas).
Art of Computer Programming is the book everyone mentions but no one reads. A classic that people actually read is Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs.
My recommendations: "Code" by Charles Petzold,"Don't make me think" by Steve Krug, Working Effectivelly with Legacy Code, by Robert Feathers, Clean Code by uncle Bob,..
flavio81onAug 29, 2017
Sorry but I do stand on my criticism of Design Patterns as applied today.
> The language most of the examples are written in, C++, does allow multiple inheritance and metaprogramming,
You're being very generous with C++ if you consider it does allow metaprogramming. It does not, if we compare it with the languages that make good use of metaprogramming: Lisp, Scheme, Racket, and now Julia.
caioconOct 11, 2015
jt2190onJuly 5, 2015
This is why IMHO the best advice comes with a list of pros and cons. It tells me that the author has thought deeply enough about the subject to understand not only the solution, but the contexts where the solution isn't a good fit. (Two books that spring to mind that do this: Patterns of Enterprise Applications by Fowler, and Design Patterns by Gemma et al.)
CodhisattvaonMar 13, 2015
"Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs"
"Design Patterns" by the Gang of Four
InclinedPlaneonDec 22, 2012
CodeSheikhonJan 17, 2019
- Clean Code (by "Uncle Bob")) [https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Code-Handbook-Software-Craftsma...]
- Design Patterns (by "Gang of 4") [https://www.amazon.com/Design-Patterns-Elements-Reusable-Obj...]
- Introduction to Algorithms (by "CLRS") [https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Algorithms-3rd-MIT-Press...]
hodgesrmonFeb 1, 2019
More generally comparison and hashing methods seem like small potatoes compared to locking primitives, portability, and a large, well-documented class library that have made Java ideal for a very large fraction of business applications. There are many things to criticize in Java but the points you list don't seem to be especially important compared, say, to the relatively steep learning curve/complexity vs languages like modern Javascript.
ilakshonSep 14, 2016
One thing you should not bother doing is to order giant piles of paper just so that you can say you read X famous author on OOP or Design Patterns or whatever. That is a waste of time and money now that we have Google and blogs/online articles etc. And anyway you are going to learn by doing it for X years or months, not by reading a book.
Also, be careful because people will to make it seem much more complicated than it is. The more complex or subtle aspects you are probably only going to remember or understand if you learn them through practice anyway.
wicknicksonJuly 30, 2013
Glad she's back. Hope she continues. Very thoughtful and excellent article.
steveklabnikonNov 27, 2010
* Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software
* Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code
* Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
* Code Complete: A Practical Handbook of Software Construction
And some others:
* Working Effectively with Legacy Code
* Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software
throwaway170805onAug 16, 2017
However, computer science and software development are not the same thing. If your primary goal is to up your game as a software developer, you might get more out of well-regarded software development books like "The Pragmatic Programmer," "Working Effectively with Legacy Code", or "Design Patterns."
Hope this helps.
anonsivalley652onMar 3, 2020
Introduction to Algorithms MIT Press
Numerical Recipes algorithms for science
TAOCP
SICP
AOMP
To Mock a Mockingbird combinators are good for you
Design Patterns
First Principles of Interaction Design (Revised & Expanded)
The Dragon book
Database Systems: Design, Implementation, & Management
K&R C
Code Complete
Working Effectively with Legacy Code
Software Engineering at Google
Site Reliability Engineering
-- Also, learn these, at least to a novice level: --
Crystal
Java
Clojure
Haskell
OCaml
Erlang
Elixir
Rust
C
x86 assembly
bash, JS, CSS, HTML, SQL, Python
and do Linux From Scratch & BLFS
munificentonSep 18, 2020
I think you're getting at the idea that instead of having objects differ in their behavior by overriding methods, you have them differ by having fields bound to objects that implement different behavior.
Assuming I understand you right, that's an excellent insight, but it's just the classic principle:
Favor object composition over class inheritance.
There's nothing new in that idea or anything special to ECS. Do you know how I know? Because that sentence here is directly quoted from page 20 of "Design Patterns", which ECS and DoD are often claimed to be in direct opposition to. :)
ryanmaynardonApr 29, 2019
[1]: Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software by Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, and John Vlissides
mpweiheronJune 13, 2021
As John Hughes put it in Why Functional Programming Matters, we need more kinds of glue.
See https://blog.metaobject.com/2019/02/why-architecture-oriente...
As to Design Patterns: the Smalltalk version of the Design Patterns book is a small booklet, most of the patterns just go away. As to the video: tried to watch, got to the "it's functions, functions functions and again functions" slide. For OO, it would be "it's objects, objects, objects and again, objects". Sadly, most FP-centered critiques of OO are at this level, or even worse. :-/
Overall, you're going to have more patterns in FP because its model of computation is less powerful. (See Concepts, Techniques, and Models of Computer Programming https://www.info.ucl.ac.be/~pvr/book.html for a definition of relative power ).
binarynateonApr 7, 2020
1. The Pragmatic Programmer by Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas
2. The Clean Coder by Robert Martin
3. Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software (the "Gang of Four" book)
The first two contain a range of advice pertaining to working as a professional software engineer. The third one, although very dated, is still a great resource for understanding many of the design patterns used in OOP.
xtractoonJuly 18, 2019
I remember reading the Ruby book about design patterns. It was painful and the general motto of the book was "you don't need this and that static design pattern".
However, I think as a community we should be defining a collection of design patterns that are useful in dynamic languages. At the end of the day, the main idea behind Design Patterns was the definition of higher-level logic constructs that could be used to solve a problem when developing software.
It is like in the construction industry where bricks are the "code" and the 'best practices' (design patterns) of how to built houses with bricks do not apply when you are building a house using wood. Sure, brick design patterns do not work for wood, but that does not mean that wood building doesn't have their own patterns.
wonjunonMay 30, 2015
beatonJune 17, 2015
Read "The C Programming Language", by Kernighan and and Ritchie. Written decades ago, still accurate and relevant today. "The Mythical Man-Month", "The Pragmatic Programmer", "Design Patterns"... books like this will always be relevant.
Maybe a good rule is to stick to CS books that have been in continuous print for at least ten years.
ybluonDec 22, 2016
* Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future. If you can read only one book on startup this year, read this book.
* Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future.
* Running Lean: Iterate from Plan A to a Plan That Works.
* Alibaba's World: How a Remarkable Chinese Company is Changing the Face of Global Business.
* Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle.
* Disrupted: My Misadventure in the Start-Up Bubble. You will like or hate this book a lot, but it's surely an interesting read and perspective.
* Learned Optimism: How to Change Your Mind and Your Life. Good book that gives you a framework to become more optimistic.
* Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind.
* The Three-Body Problem Trilogy. Great, great sci-fi.
* Understanding ECMAScript 6. Best ES6 reference book.
* Node.js Design Patterns. Best Node book for intermediate/advanced developers.
* CSS Secrets: Better Solutions to Everyday Web Design Problems. Great, great book on advanced CSS tips & tricks.
* Mastering Selenium WebDriver. This is probably the only good book on Selenium among so many bad books on this topic.
* Grokking Algorithms: An illustrated guide for programmers and other curious people. This is a good book but might be too basic for many people. Recommended for those who wants to quickly refresh their algorithms knowledge.
rurbanonOct 7, 2017
> "Project Genie to educate Google about his proprietary ideas and techniques so they could develop a working proof of concept of his Engineered Architecture technology"
Parametric design and integration into AEC is industry standard since the 80-ies, and a long-time goal of virtually all design software manufacturers. Everybody had a take on this moonshot, and eventually it will get there.
It started with Christopher Alexanders "Design Patterns", when he won a city planning competition for the rebuilding of a destroyed Lima, Peru by offering simple recursive design patterns and not a grand master plan.
In the following decades this was being incooperated into various design tools. In the 90ies I based a university course on that ("Computer Assistet Planning"), and there were several others also worldwide.
City planning is obviously easiest, as there are almost no physics involved, AEC also easy but problematic because the heterogeneous SW used (needing API's, needing a strong partner), and construction being the hardest (Think of AutoCAD vs Revit). Allia thought of the Neufert standards as design patterns. Good goal, but by far not proprietary and revolutionary. Most of us working on that had far more than Allia.
Going to Google with this plan is also extremely naive. There's only AutoDESK to go to with such a project.
An earlier overview is that article https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/17/8048779/google-x-eli-atti...
A current take on city planning is the City Engine: http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine/free-trial
timronMar 26, 2012
That said, there's definitely a huge number of people who claim to have read Design Patterns, but actually have only read about Singletons and Factories in a Java book. It's a shame, because Design Patterns is one of the most formative books I've read as a programmer. Everyone should read it -- observing the way that patterns are (mis-)used in Java is a poor substitute for wrapping your head around the insights in GoF.
vickytnzonFeb 1, 2014
hinkleyonAug 3, 2019
When that awful Design Patterns book was off the hype train but the new devs had heard about it and asked if they should read it, I would tell them No, read Refactoring twice instead, because it tells you why and when to use this stuff, which is much more valuable. Like feature work, if you know why you are doing something you can often reason out the gaps in the “what” on your own.
We sort of take a bunch of XP processes as a given and forget that this was Agile for most people at the time of the manifesto. Scrum pretends it’s separate but is essentially useless without half of XP.
x87678ronDec 18, 2020
GoF book is well obsolete, since then OO has faded, JS & Python are the the most common tools, even Java is unrecognizable with Lambdas and functional features everywhere. Meanwhile vast amounts of memory and CPU power mean flyweights and object pools aren't so useful and immutability is now a valid design goal. The GoF needs an update.
holygoatonSep 7, 2008
Computer Science != Software Engineering.
I would follow up by saying that, no matter how wonderful Road to Reality is, it's also not about CS, and GEB only overlaps the field.
An incorrectly titled post, perhaps?
pyreonSep 7, 2014
The parent comment is responding to @tptacek's original comment:
> (It's actually of dubious relevance to programmers in general).
Where 'it' is the Design Patterns book. That's a more broad statement than just whether or not security researchers needs to read the book. The parent to your post replied to that:
> I agree that _Design Patterns_ has little to do with security, but I think you are being a bit hard on it from a programming perspective.
So, in summary:
famousactressonDec 6, 2011
If we're talking about technical books, Refactoring is easily the most beneficial read I can remember having. I was pleased to see it (barely) trump Design Patterns... a book that I think (through no real fault of it's own) has spoiled more developer-years than it's benefitted.
kushtionJuly 7, 2014
+ Free Book "The Architecture of Open Source Applications" : http://hackershelf.com/book/54/the-architecture-of-open-sour...
threepipeproblmonJune 30, 2017
antocvonJuly 8, 2014
I feel the best way to get into the mindset of good design, or design principals - even if it isnt "examples of good design" as the AOSA book - is to get immersed into an architecture formed from a design based mindset different than what you are used to.
Learn something engineered with design principles heavily visible in mind. What is the design principle of a modern GNU/Linux system? Its mosthly philosophical, you wont find the answer in several books, its spread out far and wide and requires that you actually use GNU/Linux for years, to have taken part in its history.
I suggest you pick up and learn JSF (Java Server Faces). Start reading JSF books, Java Enterprise things, start coding it, doing it. One good book is JSF in Action from Manning I believe.
When you begin reading about or trying to make a hello world site in JSF - youll be like "wtf is this, fuck" - thats right - thats you being exposed to a different design principles based mindset. Its not bad, its in fact very good (JSF and the experience).
Only once youve finished say a "community website, friends can befriend each other, send messages, write on wall, share pictures." in JSF, even though it looks as ugly as can be - then youve advanced more in passing those interviews with regards to design principles - than reading any of the books mentioned so far in this thread. But reading the other books wont dis-help you.
EDIT: From experience, the books flaunted around here, Code Complete, AOSA, Design Patterns here there and everywhere, are just bullshit for this task. What your interviewers were asking for is not if you can count and use Design Patterns. Or if you agree or dont agree on which method in a class should be refactored out and what it should be named. Dive deeper out of your comfort zone - go for JSF.
forintionApr 27, 2010
But I really grew fond of the Visitor Pattern, because you can do a lot with very little code.
Computer Graphics is the best school for Object Oriented thinking, I've found.
kirbman89onFeb 22, 2011
krzykonMar 26, 2012
I didn't find Design Patterns as "dry", it was quite entertaining for me. Maybe because I didn't know anything about design patterns when I read it. On the other hand I reread it about 2 years after the first read and I still found it quite interesting.
Also, I've read the whole Code Complete and it was also interesting and I considered it one of the best books for programmers.
As for CLRS - boring as *%&^%#, I just can't manage to get past the sorting chapter. AFAIR there are not exercise answers so one is left alone when doing them, which mostly disqualifies every such book for anyone who is studying it on it's own, not in a class room.
Skiena's book is far, far better written, but unfortunately some of the exercises are to thought for me so when I'm reading my exercises are from 2-3 chapters behind. Although it's good that there is a wiki with (not always correct) answers.
Haven't read TAOCP.
osipovonJan 23, 2021
munificentonMay 18, 2020
Yes! I think about this often. There is sort of a Zen or Bruce Lee aspect where thinking of things strictly in terms of named categories can lead to overly rigid thinking and cause you to avoid better solutions simply because they don't have a name and don't seem as "real".
There is a balancing act, though. When we write code on a team, there is a real value to shared understanding of the codebase. Sticking to familiar categories, even at some minor expense of fitness to the task, is probably a net gain if it makes it easier to the entire team to understand what the code is doing and why.
It's also important to remember that the primary reason the Gang of Four wrote Design Patterns and called them patterns after Christopher Alexander's A Pattern Language is because they are not rigid copy/paste structures. If they were, we'd just call them data structures or algorithms.
The fundamental premise of why we call these patterns is that each manifestation of a pattern will appear slightly different, shaped by the context in which it is applied. That's why you don't often see resuable "pattern implementation libraries".
Good literature on patterns stresses this flexibility. Less good literature tends to just say "here's the thing that solves all your problems" and discourages readers from thinking deeply.
weavieonSep 4, 2015
Perhaps the problem doesn't fit into an object oriented solution. You could try learning a functional language and see if you find it fitting better. I struggled for years with OO and was never happy with my solutions. Learning functional was my road to Damascus experience.
If you have to go OO, there have been plenty of people who have thought long and hard about how to make OO a suitable solution. Some classic books you may want to consider :
- Design patterns : elements of reusable object-oriented software (Gang of four) - there are people who swear by this and turn it into their hammer for which everything becomes a nail.
- Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture (Martin Fowler)
- Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code (Martin Fowler and Kent Beck)
- Growing Object-Oriented Software, Guided by Tests (Steve Freeman)
detaroonMar 2, 2021
edroonNov 11, 2014
Tom Chi (co-creator Google Glass)
- Grady Booch (creator the Unified Modeling Language)
- David Heinemeier Hansson (inventor of Ruby on Rails)
- Brian Fox (invented the GNU Bash shell)
- Rebecca Parsons (CTO, Thoughtworks)
- Hakon Wium Lie (inventor of CSS)
- Alex Gaynor (Director, Python Software Foundation, and core committer to Django)
- Sarah Allen (Presidential Innovation Fellow, led development for many Adobe products)
- Gilad Bracha (co-author of the Java Language Specification)
- Kent Beck (creator of Extreme Programming, created Test Driven Development, co-created Agile, author of 9 books)
- Ward Cunningham (inventor of the wiki, contributed to Extreme Programming, co-author of Design Patterns)
- Bram Cohen (inventor of Bittorrent)
- Hampton Catlin (creator of Sass, Haml, m.wikipedia.org, book author)
- Matei Zaharia (creator of Apache Spark)
- Melody Meckfessel (Google Director of Engineering)
- Jon Skeet (the top answerer on StackOverflow)
- Scott Hanselman (author of multiple books)
- Jeff Haynie (founder of Appcelerator)
- Ryan Bubinski (founder of Codecademy)
- Aaron Skonnard (founder of Pluralsight)
- Floyd Marinescu (founder of InfoQ)
- Steve Newcomb (founder of Famo.us)
- Orion Henry (founder of Heroku)
- Janet Wiener (Engineering at Facebook, big data expert)
- Scott Chacon (CIO, Github)
- Chad Fowler (CTO, Wunderlist, well-known programming educator and blogger)
- Salil Deshpande (open source investor titan)
- Hadi Partovi (founder of Code.org, was in charge of Internet Explorer, advisor to Dropbox and Facebook)
- Qi Lu (EVP, Microsoft)
andrewriceonNov 11, 2014
50shadeonNov 11, 2014
-Grady Booch (creator the Unified Modeling Language)
-David Heinemeier Hansson (inventor of Ruby on Rails)
-Brian Fox (invented the GNU Bash shell)
-Hakon Wium Lie (inventor of CSS)
-Alex Gaynor (Director, Python Software Foundation, and core committer to Django)
-Sarah Allen (Presidential Innovation Fellow, led development for many Adobe products)
-Gilad Bracha (co-author of the Java Language Specification)
-Kent Beck (creator of Extreme Programming, created Test Driven Development, co-created Agile, author of 9 books)
-Ward Cunningham (inventor of the wiki, contributed to Extreme Programming, co-author of Design Patterns)
-Hampton Catlin (creator of Sass, Haml, m.wikipedia.org, book author)
-Matei Zaharia (creator of Apache Spark)
-Melody Meckfessel (Google Director of Engineering)
-Jon Skeet (the top answerer on StackOverflow)
-Scott Hanselman (author of multiple books)
-Jeff Haynie (founder of Appcelerator)
-Ryan Bubinski (founder of Codecademy)
-Aaron Skonnard (founder of Pluralsight)
-Floyd Marinescu (founder of InfoQ)
-Steve Newcomb (founder of Famo.us)
-Orion Henry (founder of Heroku)
-Janet Wiener (Engineering at Facebook, big data expert)
-Scott Chacon (CIO, Github)
-Chad Fowler (CTO, Wunderlist, well-known programming educator and blogger)
-Salil Deshpande (open source investor titan)
-Hadi Partovi (founder of Code.org, was in charge of Internet Explorer, advisor to Dropbox and Facebook)
-Rebecca Parsons (CTO at Thoughtworks)
-Qi Lu (Executive vice president of Microsoft’s Applications and Services Group)
-Chris Richardson (Java Champion, book author, founder of CloudFoundry)
-Bram Cohen (Inventor of Bittorrent)
loumfonNov 28, 2010
If you need your code to construct objects without knowing the type, then you need a factory (or other creation pattern). If you don't -- it's overkill. They are using a solution to a problem they don't have.
seregineonJuly 7, 2014
The Timeless Way of Building by Christopher Alexander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Timeless_Way_of_Building
The C2 wiki has interesting entries on software patterns and related ideas:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiPagesAboutWhatArePatterns
Stanford CS 240 has a great list of papers on system design:
http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs240/
One paper that's no longer on that list, but I remember from when I took the class:
End-to-end arguments in system design
http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/endtoend/endtoen...
trilinearnzonMar 19, 2020
I also have a few for purely nostalgic value, representative of key moments in my past. Notably: the OpenGL Red Book and C++ The Complete Reference.
MachaonMay 27, 2019
Nowadays, most students have a library of pirated PDFs, meaning they have the information on hand where they need it and with no need to return it or find it already borrowed in the college library. Most colleges will give you access to online databases of journals, so they aren't a draw either.
The other problem encountered was that of QC. At least in my institution more substantial books were always in short supply, as they'd never have more than 5-6 copies of a single book, so you'd arrive at the computing section and find... "Java 2 for Dummies". Or "Teach yourself C++ in 24 hours". Books that might have been fine to self-learners (when they were not significantly outdated), but nothing that wouldn't be covered in a textbook and nothing more substantial.
Probably this is a disconnect between the people running the library and the lecturers, but the attitude of the library was "Yes, we have software development books. What do you mean 15 years is out of date? The psychology books have been there since the 70s. And our figures show that more students have taken out 'Java 2 for Dummies' than 'Design Patterns' or 'The Pragmatic Programmer', so we don't need more copies."
But those two factors, the greater accessibility of pirated PDFs and blogs (and for some of the slightly more recent students, Stack Overflow), and the lacking quality of what was probably available on the shelves at any given point you chose to look meant that the library was definitely way more useful as a study space than for the contents of the shelves for the other students and myself during my degree.
dragonwriteronFeb 8, 2017
> This is a misunderstanding of the DP book.
It is discussing an effect of the book, not the intent.
> It would be similar to saying that the existence of TVTropes.com is responsible for terrible scripts of tv shows and movies.
Which would be entirely accurate if script writers were widely using TVTropes pages as templates and creating bad scripts from it, regardless of what TVTropes is intended to be.
qwertyuiop924onJuly 21, 2016
mattfrommarsonJune 29, 2018
I have a STEM (non-CS) degree but very recently, started working as a programmer. Doing my first internship at a 'techy' corporate company. One of the things I'd be doing on the side is to go through https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/elements-computing-systems. The video introduction to it just gives me goosebumps to this day. I don't know why. It's fascinating.
Than there is other paradigm books such as "pragmatic programmer", "Thinking Like A Programmer", "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software", etc.
So far, I've done plenty of reading on Algorithm & Design Structure and leetcode here and there. In the past, I didn't qualify for internship at Google, Amazon or M$ as a software developer/engineer. I feel the reason why I didn't was because I didn't have a "computer science" keyword mentioned anywhere on my resume. Hence, my hope is after getting through "Element of Computing System" & Design Pattern, I'll be able to shove in "computer science" keyword one way or another on my resume.
munificentonAug 14, 2012
> Delegation is a way of making composition as powerful for reuse as inheritance [Lie86,JZ91]. In delegation, two objects are involved in handling a request: a receiving object delegates operations to its delegate. This is analogous to subclasses deferring requests to superclasses. But with inheritance, an inherited operation can always refer to the receiving object through the "this" member variable in C++ and "self" in Smalltalk. To achieve the same effect without delegation, the receiver passes itself to the delegate to let the delegated operation refer to the receiver.
Sounds like they're perfectly clear and correct to me. As the author of the post points out the GoF don't actually show examples of delegation in the book and I don't recall them using the term much, so I don't see how they're perpetrating any misinformation here.
> In JS we can assign a prototype: the equvalent of the parent slot in Self.
No, .prototype is not equivalent to a parent slot in Self. It's closer to a traits object, I think. The unstandardized __proto__ property is equivalent to a parent slot in JS.
> Yeah, Design Patterns showed examples in Java. And Java can’t do delegation. So is that a valid argument for rewriting the meaning of a term?
Design Patterns is older than Java. Maybe later editions use it, but the original version used C++ and Smalltalk.
Otherwise, good troll post, original author. I'm sure you'll get lots of traffic and people noticing your book. Well played!
cottonseedonJuly 25, 2017
Lampson's classic on hints for computer system design:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/...
Here is a previous HN post on the subject: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8000811
The Clean Code author has a Clean Architecture book but I don't think it is out yet.
aaron-santosonSep 13, 2017
muzanionJuly 2, 2021
Something like React is the norm now. It's not necessarily any simpler or faster, but it's more efficient past N hours, which is the case for many larger companies.
It's also why functional programming has regained popularity, or at least writing functions the way you would for functional (immutable, output of one is the input of another).
However, we're still using a lot of old techniques. The best book on Design Patterns was written in 1997. Pragmatic Programmer was written in 1999 (though revisited a few years ago). The best TDD book is still from 2002; a lot of modern takes on TDD gets the philosophy completely wrong. TDD was meant to reduce fear, not improve test coverage.
ChuckMcMonSep 9, 2018
My observation is that you're halfway there when you realize that you need to improve, of the folks I saw who did poorly it was because they didn't realize that you could be both the smartest person in the room and the least capable at the same time.
Right now, on your first job experience, even a kid who never went to college is better at programming than you are because they've been experiencing all the pitfalls that can happen and have built up a knowledge from that which is perhaps more intuitive than formal but serves them well. What you have over that person is that you've trained yourself to consume, classify, organize, and distill massive amounts of information in a short amount of time.
Use that training to consume everything you can on the art of writing programs. Read "Test Driven Development" read "Code Complete", read "Design Patterns", read "The Design of the UNIX Operating System", read "TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 1", and a book or two on databases. With your training you should be able to skim through those to identify the various "tricky bits" and get a feel for what is and what is not important in this new field of yours.
Soak in as much as you can and ask a lot of questions. Pretty soon no one will know you haven't been doing this your whole life.
xueyonggonMay 12, 2020
https://blog.phuaxueyong.com/post/2020-05-03-3-more-cloud-de...
scarface74onAug 24, 2019
shubhamjainonMar 6, 2015
I kind of believe that, have I not read the book, I would have stumbled upon the ideas later anyhow, by reading blogs, tinkering, and making mistakes. Albeit, it is wrong to expect any magical words that can shift your direction completely, but still I am not sure how much value do printed ideas provide vs learning them by experience. I am not implying that books like it are futile but I don't buy that they are "career-changing".
Same goes for reading about Design Patterns. I believe it is better to learn "Design Patterns" by building and reading code and finding a certain code organization better for your use-case, rather than enforcing a kung-fu-singleton-ninja pattern where it might be simply an over-engineering.
pjmorrisonJuly 27, 2016
vogonJuly 14, 2016
This wisdom is at least as old as the classic GoF book [1] which was published in 1994. Many of their patterns can be summarized as: "Favor 'object composition' over 'class inheritance'."
They also give a pretty simple, compelling reason for that: It is just a direct consequence of the even more fundamental principle:
"Program to an interface, not an implementation."
[1] Gang of Four (Erich Gamma,
Richard Helm,
Ralph Johnson,
John Vlissides): "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
slowmovintargetonApr 27, 2021
From the article:
> In his book on Business Object Notation, Bertrand Meyer lists twenty-six competing methods. I remember reading documents that listed over fifty, but I can’t seem to find them again so it might be a false memory.
I also distinctly remember how difficult it was to learn from other's designs. Back then, there was no Stack Overflow or Google. Developers like me obsessed over the latest books (like this new Design Patterns book, have you heard about it?!?)
It isn't a problem today because that's not how design ideas get communicated anymore. You have blog posts, and GitHub repos with examples and Markdown. This is better. But in the mid to late 90s, UML really helped.
Disclaimer: I was on many of those OMG committees for Model Driven Architecture and UML back in its heyday. I've also sat in Sushi restaurants after conference proceedings during dinner with some of the people mentioned in the article. The talk was of how we were going to change the industry. I smile to think of how things moved on without our dreams. :)
voicedYodaonApr 24, 2020
StormbringeronMar 29, 2011
Javascript is much closer to a halfway point to Lisp than Java. I don't really see Java as being at all similar to Lisp... witness the 3-4 year (possibly longer) debacle trying to get closures into the language. Talk about banging a square rhinoceros into a round hole.
Java's point of greatest similarity to C++ is undoubtedly Generics, which has all the syntactic disadvantages of C++ templates, but none of the meta-programming advantages.
But one of the ways of seeing that C++ and Java are quite dissimilar is to first grok Java Interfaces, and then read through the smalltalk/C++ version of the GoF book Design Patterns, with a view to how many of the Patterns don't even make sense in Java or are obsolete in Java because of Interfaces.
tobinharrisonJuly 27, 2014
But my guess it's a natural progression from a standard Factory; Factories allow instantiation without specifying any type, and FactoryFactories afford the same flexibility, but just for instantiating a Factory without knowing it's type.
This was probably reenforced by the fact that life was easier if you built to interfaces rather than implementations, so factories were good for this.
I actually love the design patterns book, but I sometimes curse it - especially when stumbling upon things like the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean. WTF!
http://docs.spring.io/spring/docs/2.5.x/api/org/springframew...
munificentonFeb 8, 2017
This is true, but it's an effect, not a cause of the book. "Design Patterns" is older than Java. They wrote it based on patterns they saw mainly in Smalltalk and C++.
> prescribed their use generally
Like "A Pattern Language", "Design Patterns" reads more descriptively than prescriptively. It's, "Here's a thing we saw people do. Here's what problem they were solving with it. Here's the context of their problem. Here's the positive and negative consequences."
smprkonApr 19, 2014
1. For Data Structures and Algorithms.
- Join this site where active job seekers hang around and share interview questions - http://www.careercup.com
- Solve a question a day and post your solutions, read through that of others and comment.
- This is an active community so you would get up and running with the basics quite fast.
2. For Design Patterns.
- Do a "light reading" of this book - http://www.uml.org.cn/c%2B%2B/pdf/DesignPatterns.pdf
- Explore opensource projects and see if you can identify patterns.
shaileshonJuly 25, 2013
1. Write a list of desired features. Next, prioritize those features.
2. Write brief functional specifications for features of highest priority.
3. Decide on how you want to use the software stacks for different tiers, e.g.
4. Research any libraries that automatically handle common functional units, such as authentication and authorization, analytics et al.
5. Some functional units might be implemented more easily by gluing together services. E.g. using New Relic for deep application monitoring, Twilio for cloud communications.
6. Design and implement all functional units.
7. Profit!
8. Write a Thank you HN note, :)
One should do this exercise for a "toy" application like "To Do List" first. It helps remarkably when we go about building serious stuff.
Books:
1. Code Complete by Steve McConnell - worth at least skimming it.
2. Design Patterns by Erich Gamma et al
http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?DesignPatterns
Also, definitely have a look at Peter Norvig's slides:
http://norvig.com/design-patterns
3. About Face 3: The Essentials of Interaction Design by Alan Cooper
4. Writing Effective Use Cases by Alistair Cockburn
Websites:
1. Obviously, HN, :)
2. http://highscalability.com/
It may look like a huge undertaking, but it really isn't. A quote from Michael Abrash seems appropriate here, "Winning a hard race prepares us for the next harder one."
This is just top of the mind; hope this helps.
Good luck.
Edit: formatting.
JareonJuly 8, 2013
"I started trying to find books about how to organize programs. Fast-forward several years and a friend hands me a new book: Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software. Finally! The book I’d been looking for since I was a teenager."
"But the architecture that this brilliant code hung from was often an afterthought. [...] if they ever cracked open Design Patterns at all, never got past Singleton."
I'm sure most cases of badly architected code you have ran into were caused by insufficient time and/or attention devoted to design and architecture. Now the question is, do you think if these coders had the same time/attention but knew patterns, the result would be better? How would it compare to these same coders without patterns but with more time/attention?
In that sense, metaphor alert a book of design patterns is to programming what a dictionary is to writing: useful, but mostly orthogonal to the quality of the output.
jrochkind1onJune 22, 2015
Practical Object-Oriented Design in Ruby by Sandi Metz. http://www.poodr.com/
mynegationonFeb 25, 2011
Algorithms and Data structures. I have CS and Applied Math degrees, but honestly - very rarely I have to recall the inner workings of specific algorithms and data structures. It is useful to know how it all works, but not as important as you may think. You can certainly follow "fake it till you make it" approach: you need to remember memory and time complexities of the data structures and some implications, e.g. "hash tables have asymptotically O(1) search time but may consume more memory than red-black trees that provide O(log(n)) search time but have guaranteed memory and search time constraints". And so on and so forth. So go ahead and read Cormen with that in mind.
Also, my guess is that you need only as much CS as you need to become a better software developer. I don't think you want to be a theoretical computer scientist, do you?
In your situation I would also recommend reading following books:
"Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs". Honestly, to CS graduate it reads like a book for preschoolers but it is very beautifully written and is almost zen-like. And it will definitely help you understand what programming is about if you did not get proper formal training.
"Design Patterns". It is not a CS, but Software Engineering book. It provides a framework for your software design skills. You can be a great programmer without reading that book, but then you have to be exposed to a lot of beautifully designed code, and that book will save you a lot of time.
Find a popular and stable open source project that is closest to what you are doing now or what you want to do and read the code, look at the build infrastructure, documentation, try to get involved and maybe even fix some bugs, starting from simplest ones and moving up to features. You'll get a lot of brutally honest peer reviews, just don't abuse it.
Hope that helps.
ratwwonMar 9, 2021
But I think calling them like that is what made the book as famous and as is it. If the book were called "OOP Programming Techniques" it wouldn't have the same popularity. Of course that doesn't make it right.
As a book it has served its purpose at the time, but by portraying what are basically "band aids" to limited programming languages (Norvig 1996) as foundational CS knowledge, it ossified the development of OOP and CS itself by a few years IMO.
wheelsonMar 3, 2008
- Design Patterns. Dry, boring, useful. You can skim it and get most of the ideas. The best part about it is building up a vocabulary for discussing common patterns with other software engineers.
- Programming Perl. Ah, the camel book. It's possibly the only written-by-the-language-designer reference that's fun to read. Regardless of what your favorite scripting language is, you have to love Larry Wall.
- The Mythical Man Month. Another classic. Easy to read. Stuff people should know, but don't.
- The Design of Everyday Things. Not really a programming book strictly, but a nice introduction to the principles of usability. If you can get over the slight smugness, it can shake up the way you think a bit.
q845712onMar 7, 2021
I think "catalogers" as I'm thinking of them are by nature not quite pioneers, since the fundamental move of cataloging is to describe and categorize what already exists, but might often be settlers, in the sense that a good career move for a cataloger is to be the first to apply a new process to gain insight into new distinctions or categories. In that sense I would see GoF themselves acting as "settlers" in their Design Patterns book, which I tend to view as a catalog project.
However books like "Refactoring", and "Working effectively With Legacy Code" also turn into partial cataloging projects, but those might overlap more with "town planner" in that they're really leveraging some mature technologies and looking for system-level economic savings of readability/changeability/maintainability.
So I guess I'd continue to argue that it's a "mindset" as much as "a type of person"; "Working Effectively With Legacy Code" isn't _only_ a catalog, but there's parts of it that come from a catalog mindset.
Regardless, I hadn't seen the above mapping you linked and I appreciate it!
SilhouetteonApr 20, 2018
Longer answer: Basically, you need to get away from the world of front-end web development, and from the echo chamber blog posts and conference talks by people who have only ever worked in that area. No-one is writing anything large, high-performance, high-reliability or long-lived there yet, so you need to look for experience from people who have had to do those things in other contexts instead.
Classic books like Code Complete and The Pragmatic Programmer, early "serious OO" books like Design Patterns, and practical advice books of a similar generation in the Effective <programming language> style all contain a wealth of knowledge and insightful commentary. Of course some of the technical details are quite dated today and some of the specific techniques discussed might no longer be considered good practice a decade or two later, but many of the underlying principles and the discussions around them are as relevant as ever. A bit more recently, there were interesting discussions about a broad range of programming issues in Beautiful Code and the related titles, and there have been some interesting case studies based on open source software too.
If you want to read some shorter pieces online, I recommend finding a few authors who work in fields like games or embedded software, where there are often significant performance and reliability constraints to deal with, not to mention hard deadlines that force difficult decisions and compromises. There are some healthy doses of reality in there that you won't find in less demanding environments.
Enterprise applications, while often considered bland, can also be large and some of the longest-lived software we develop, and much has been written about organising and maintaining them, including real-world pressures like changing operating environments and large development teams whose members come and go. Perhaps a little ironically, this now includes a fair bit of back-end web development. Some of the writing around this is well worth a read as well, but beware that this part of the industry is plagued by consultants who talk a good talk but don't have much of a track record or other evidence to back up their advice. Approach with caution, particularly anyone who uses words like "agile", "lean", "craftsmanship" and anything else on the buzzword scale.
sg0onApr 4, 2018
1. Design Patterns (GoF) - This book is all about design, someday I aim to really understand all the patterns.
2. High Performance Parallelism Pearls Volume 2 (Reinders/Jeffers) - There are couple of other books similar to this one. But, if you want to know how myriad HPC applications make use of parallel programming models such as MPI and OpenMP, this provides a good introduction.
3. The Annotated C++ Reference Manual April 1995 hardbound edition (Ellis/Stroustrup) -- What a fantastic little book, also got it for $4.95 at Powell's bookstore in Portland :) IMO this books provides a gentle introduction to C++, you can flip to any page and just start reading.
4. Numerical Recipes in C (Press, Teukolsky, et al.) - If I need to quickly prototype some scientific computation kernel, this is my go-to book.
5. Effective C++ 3rd edition (Meyers) - I like to approach this book from the back (i.e., indices), pick up a topic, and then read the contents one by one. Repeat.
6. Discovering Modern C++: An Intensive Course for Scientists, Engineers, and Programmers (Gottschling) - I like and dislike certain portions of the book. It definitely contains a lot of code explanations of C++ idioms, which helps a beginner like me.
mujocoonOct 1, 2018
Even so, Head First Java in particular is a good introduction to object-oriented programming for someone with no prior background in it. I feel like any beginner who can look past the silliness of the Head First style could learn efficiently from this series. I wouldn't use a Head First book now, but they are good for people without much background to build on who want an easy learning curve.
bendee983onDec 4, 2020
"Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software"
It's still worth reading. But I also recommend "Object-Oriented Analysis and Design with Applications" by Grady Booch. It's not strictly design patterns, but it's a classic that explores a lot of the fundamental concepts you'll need for DP.
dragonwriteronAug 5, 2015
Languages differ in which design patterns have a native expression in the language, which can be reduced to simple reusable library code, and which require type-it-in-each-time fill-in-the-blanks code recipes.
The fact that Design Patterns were popularized in software development by the GoF book which, among other things, included code recipes to illustrate its patterns, and that the patterns in it tended to be ones for which the popular languages of the day required code recipes (lacking native implementations or the ability to provide general implementations as library code), has unfortunately associated the term with the code recipes, which aren't really the central point of understanding and using patterns.
sjclemmyonJan 4, 2013
I also sent the following as advice to someone wanting to get into web dev:
"I was just thinking of 'easy ins' to the world of web development and a good source of information is http://news.ycombinator.com/ there's a lot of information from people who work in the world of tech startups and it's good information.
Also - if you are wanting to do php dev the key things to learn are:
Software engineering techniques and practice - object oriented development and abstract patterns are key to how to think about good development.
Database design and development (1st normal form, third normal form etc) Learn SQL. (SQL for dummies or similar is good for the basic commands and syntax etc.)
Stackoverflow.com - it's the best source of help for software development on the internet.
read books, the ones that come up again and again when people talk about learning to program:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Code-Complete-Practical-Handbook-Con...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mythical-Month-Essays-Software-Engin...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Pragmatic-Programmer-Andrew-Hunt...
also - look at github.com - that's where programmers keep their source code.
Learn about Object Oriented Programming, Design Patterns, MVC (which is a design pattern) is specifcally useful for web development.
Also - demand for javascript programmers will increase over the coming years because of things like jQuery and Ajax.
That's my starter for ten - if you are interested in a career as a web programmer.
If you want to focus more on the html/css design side you could do worse than focusing on one CMS - such as wordpress and learning it inside out - you could then offer that to clients and it's a good way to provide web sites cheaply with very little effort."
dllthomasonSep 6, 2014
(In general, I find it a recurring problem on HN - and to some degree similar fora - that I am not sure what conversational role a poster intended their comment to serve; I wonder if there is a good way to address that...)
mark_l_watsononOct 6, 2018
All that said, when I did a lot of Java programming over about a 15 year period, I found the Java Design Patterns to be useful.
shadowmintonMar 13, 2018
If you’re going to recommend a book, then why not just recommend Design Patterns?
That’s actually a good book; and, if you read it, you will extract exactly zero value from this one, which gives only the most trivial coverage of a handful of the patterns from the former.
/shrug
I feel like people who 5 star review this on amazon didn’t read Design Patterns becuase it looked to scary, and liked it because this was cute and simple and easy.
...unfortunately, the reality is that cute simple explanations are usually trivialising the content (as this book does; seriously go read a few game programming gems if you think game programming is as trivial as a singleton...), so given a choice of a universally acclaimed coverage of the topic, and some hand drawn pictures, why the heck would you recommend the latter to anyone other than a student?
I don’t get it, and I see no value in the content of this book ...but, I guess different things for different people.
brnstzonJan 31, 2013
Sure, you can do upfront design in any language. But you need to have experience to do upfront design. If you're new to programming, you should just hack around.
The other option is to read a Design Patterns book and treat it like religion. This is what happens to many new programmers who start with C++ or Java. You learn the patterns and you apply them everywhere, because that's what you were told to do. Some people like this, but many are turned off right away. I understand the point of things like Java. They make it possible for dozens of programmers to collaborate on a large project without stepping on each other's toes. But all of that abstraction makes no sense to a new programmer (at least one who is not a super intelligent space alien).
I don't see that risk in other programming paradigms, mostly because they are not as popular. But I also think something like functional programming carries a lot less baggage than OOP. It's easier to get the main concept.
Dynamic typing is easier on a newbie. They're just trying to put the parenthesis in the right place. There's plenty of yelling going on already. That said, something like Haskell which is less verbose probably wouldn't be so bad.
saturnflyeronAug 14, 2012
strlenonJan 11, 2011
throughonJan 8, 2019
It does no harm to reference the GoF that perhaps the same G. Booch is associated with:
Design Patterns:
Elements of Reusable
Object-Oriented
Software
Replace word first thinking with thought first thinking and you’ll be fine.
AsookaonOct 26, 2017
This is not a critique against either Design Patterns or Java, both of them are important and useful. And really, quite often you don't care about waiting 100 cycles, you have ten million times 100 cycles in every second. It's when you start crunching numbers in large quantities that it can get problematic. Modern CPUs are very fast, but only if you feed them data in the right order. Otherwise you're basically running on a machine from 20 years ago, just with 32GB of RAM. Best program design right now is to yes, do write your deep class hierarchies and whatnot, but also know how to identify the parts of your program doing heavy computation and how to restructure those so you can unleash the full power of a modern processor.
neiljohnsononAug 22, 2010
Essentially to get the best from people you need to give them
* Autonomy
* Mastery
* Purpose
I suspect from your question that you are most interested in
focusing on Mastery, specifically how to help them make progress towards it.
I found Pragmatic Programer to be a pretty good general resource. http://www.pragprog.com/the-pragmatic-programmer
Outside of that I'd second the other comment here taking about Design Patterns - I think that the Head First book http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126 is a great introduction
Day to day, finding ways to give to really quick feedback is important, code review and general collaboration with the others will really help.
dboydonDec 14, 2010
Code Complete: http://cc2e.com/
Introduction to Algorithms (google that one, it's hard to find a good link)
Domain Driven Design: http://domaindrivendesign.org/books/evans_2003
Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software
The term "web development" doesn't mean much. There is web design. There is application development. When the two mix, there is web application development. Any kind of application development is hard, and simply knowing a language or two isn't going to make you a good application developer any more than knowing english will make you Stephen King. (IMO)
specialistonApr 24, 2020
But older me now understands every generation goes thru a phase where they think they newly discovered sex.
When I asked my then teenaged son the difference between "emo" and "goth", he informed me that "goth" is for old people.
themulletonSep 4, 2015
Book wise, I learnt them from "Head first design patterns" which is useful and fun or for a quicker overview - http://www.java2s.com/Tutorials/Java/Java_Design_Patterns/in... .
Also remember if you have other people around you delegate / meet them / bounce ideas together.
vram22onAug 12, 2017
One of the opening pages of the Design Patterns book (the GoF book) has "Prefer composition over inheritance" (or words to that effect) as the only sentence on that page, right in the middle of it. My guess is that the GoF authors did that to emphasize the importance of that advice, maybe due to having seen too many brittle inheritance-laden hierarchies.
I mentioned this to a client I was consulting to, a couple of years ago, after I saw that he seemed to be using inheritance too liberally, and maybe without thinking if it was needed and the right thing to use for his specific needs. He did get the point, and changed his code from then on.
kazinatoronOct 15, 2016
From the second: (1) Intro to Algorithms, absolutely cover to cover once, and selected readings additional times; based the Kazlib "dict" module closely on the Red Black tree algorithm (with a slight improvement); (2) Compilers: Principles, Techniques and Tools: Ditto, and in recent years, implemented a regex compiler based on the graph-based descriptions in that book; (3) TAOCP: selected readings only, too huge; (4) Design Patterns: cover to cover, when OOP was fashionable in the 90's; (5) nope, but I read the Stroustrup and Ellis Annotated C++ Reference Manual cover to cover (weekend before starting first C++ gig). That counts as a 1:1 substitute, more or less.
sramsayonDec 27, 2012
But hopefully you will, and I can tell you why.
After a long and painful apprenticeship, you finally realize that being a great programmer has nothing to do with the language or its features. You get to the point where you're completely done learning this or that new technique (which, by the way, is nearly always an old thing for someone else). Your "profound enlightenment experience" with Lisp is ten years old; your copy of Design Patterns looks like an old Bible; you've had dozens of dirty weekends with stack-based languages, declarative languages, experimental languages, etc. You've been all of those places and done all of that. Many, many times.
At that point, the pros on cons have fully evened out, and what you want is a tool that you can completely and totally master. You've stopped searching for tools without warts, edge cases, and gotchas, because you know those do not exist. What matters is community, ancestral memory, stability, maturity, docs. Above all, you just want to build something really great.
It is at that point that you become that guy. You might well turn to C, as many before you have. Maybe, maybe not. Lots of us have.
We aren't crusty old neanderthals, though. We're just at the logical end of the process.
westurneronNov 25, 2017
"Manifesto for Agile Software Development" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development#The...
"Catalog of Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture"
https://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/
Fowler > Publications ("Refactoring ",)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Fowler#Publications
"Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software" (GoF book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
.
UNIX Philosophy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
Plan 9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs
## Distributed Systems
CORBA > Problems and Criticism (monolithic standards, oversimplification,):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Object_Request_Broker_A...
Bulk Synchronous Parallel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulk_synchronous_parallel
Paxos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxos_(computer_science)
Raft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raft_(computer_science) #Safety
CAP theorem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAP_theorem
munificentonJuly 8, 2013
If you look at the chapter outline, I'm planning to have an introductory section on "How to Use Patterns (and How Not to Abuse Them)" where I'll try to mitigate this. Also, each chapter has a "Keep in Mind" section that focuses on telling you when a pattern might not be a good fit.
andyjohnson0onMar 26, 2012
The problem with Design Patterns is that much of the information in the book (but not enough of it) is accessible elsewhere.
Maybe now, but I don't think this was true when the GoF book was published in 1995. My recollection is that there weren't a lot of books on software architecture (code- or system-level) back then because it wasn't so much of an issue. Most of us were writing monolithic C code or trying to get reuse of C++ libraries. The whole "architecture astronaut" thing hadn't got started.
That is was so ahead of its time is what makes it an important book.
struppionJan 13, 2016
So, inheritance is not always bad, and you should not avoid it at any cost. But you should avoid it where you can. AFAIR, the original quote from the GoF book ("Design Patterns") was something like: "Favour composition over inheritance", not "Stop using inheritance alltogether".
The biggest cost of inheritance (that is, inheritance of concrete methods and state) is tight coupling. You couple two classes together in a way that makes them really hard to test, change and evolve in isolation. Everything becomes worse if you have mutable state in one of the two classes.
This can cause ripple effects in your code: You try to fix one little defect, and in fact you end up changing several classes and unit tests because everything is so tightly coupled and because everything has side effects.
There are several techniques to reuse code that give you better decoupling: You can extract pure functions from your code - They are really easy and painless to reuse when you get the abstractions right. You can compose objects instead of inheriting from them. You can use callbacks or lambda expressions instead of abstract methods.
To recap: Inheritance always comes at a cost. And you can often find solutions that are just as easy or easier to understand, and that will better decouple and isolate parts of your code.
js8onNov 29, 2015
This is a formal way to do homoiconicity, and frankly much better than codewalkers and CPS-conversions and similar tricks.
I now think that everything you can do with macros in CL, you can do in Haskell too and it will be cleaner. Another good example are lens and traversals, they are generalizations of generic references such that CL can only envy.
Someone should really rewrite On Lisp and Paradigms of AI in Haskell.. (and also Design Patterns from GoF) I think it would prove this point.
ryanisnanonNov 1, 2016
I wish I had the latter in my hands now for reference (it's at home), but from what I can recall, the book goes into great detail about how to solve specific problems using generalizable solutions. For example, to establish a connection between the space inside of a building with the space outside of the building, consider adding awnings with open archways to the perimeter.
The Design Patterns book, though wildly specific (possibly only because it can be), also deals with solving specific problems with generalizable solutions. For example, creating and ensuring only one instance of an object exists (Singleton - p. 127). The book outlines the motivation for this (e.g. the problem), and defines an abstract for the solution.
Also, the fact that more modern languages can more easily solve some the problems discussed in Design Patterns is, while true, seems like a bit of a red herring. Undoubtedly the patterns themselves have a lifetime of usefulness, and will evolve as we discover new ways of solving new (and old) problems.
wwwestononJuly 18, 2019
Or as someone else once put it, "design patterns" might more accurately be called something like "palliative idioms for pain points in static manifestly typed class-oriented languages."
That's a little bit unfair, given Smalltalk's place in all this, but one of the wastes of time over the last 20 years has been the ways in which some dynamic languages cargo-culted practices from, say, the Java world because Design Patterns™ were The Mark of A Professional™.
The fact this happened in JavaScript with Angular is particularly atrocious.
SomeCallMeTimonJuly 20, 2016
You might find that most of the Design Patterns and even some of the Refactoring book are focused on working around limitations in Java/C++-style languages.
>Although, I should probably get around to reading Refactoring, and Design Patterns
I'd been programming for 20 years before reading either.
Both were...entirely unsurprising. Design Patterns at least defined a useful vocabulary for talking about different patterns, so I found it useful in that respect, and at least some of the patterns are useful outside of a Java/C++ language. Refactoring had some good wisdom on OO design, but it was pretty much all stuff I'd picked up elsewhere or come up with on my own.
Wouldn't hurt to read through both at least once to see if there are any surprises for you. Might be safe to just check them out of the library, though. I kept Design Patterns around but gave away my Refactoring copy.
OsmoseonDec 5, 2009
In all seriousness, I highly recommend the Head First series of books. They read so much smoother than other large reference/learning books.
As for Design Patterns, the value in that was not that I learned any specific patterns, but rather that it got me to analyze software design in a systematic way rather than a "I like this" way.
JoerionDec 18, 2018
I have a confession to make: I haven't read any of those books, and I'm not really planning to.
I have read some other broad-spectrum programming books (Mythical Man-Month, Code Complete, Design Patterns, Peopleware, some lesser known ones). I've read a summary of DDD. I've read many blog posts linked to from HN relating aspects of those books. But I've never read that specific set of books.
I wonder if I'm really missing out much by not having read them, but I'm not motivated enough to find out by reading them, because there's other books I have on my reading list first (e.g. currently re-reading DDIA, after that I have Tufte lined up). Also, I never get signals from my surroundings that there are gaps in my skill set that those books would fill. Besides, having read some books is already a leg up, since many (most?) programmers don't read books.
timronDec 6, 2011
Code Complete is a fine book. The Pragmatic Programmer is okay. But neither book holds a candle to Introduction to Algorithms for career-long usefulness. For that matter, neither one holds a candle to Design Patterns for the ability to expand your mind and improve your ability to think about code (I read both at the same time, and Design Patterns is the only one whose lessons I remember distinctly, years later).
I think the main problem here is that the easy, mechanical reads get more votes than books that are harder, but more valuable. It's the technical equivalent of a lolcat photo.
eruonMay 11, 2010
>> Thank you, Guy, for emphasizing the importance of proper tail-call implementation (let's call it PITCH here) for software design and refactoring. When I delivered my | ECOOP keynote in 2004, I made the PITCH point slightly differently using the | Design Patterns book. I developed some code using the patterns from the book in Java. I requested and received confirmation that the code was truly OO oriented and truly according to Their Book. Then I tested it and it worked fine. Then I stress-tested it (on a not so large input), and it failed with stack overflow.
>> The next step was to demo the same code in the | PLT Scheme class system, which looked very similar to the Java code. And it ran great on those stress tests and even larger ones. So I asked the 300-400 people in the audience what the problem was and why this slow, interpreted language Scheme did it right and Java, C#, Eiffel, Python, etc got it wrong.
>> Not one person had any insight so after a minute of playing with them, I told them about the story of "Smalltalk to Actors to Scheme and how PITCH had 'come along for the ride'" (you may recall our email exchange in the spring of 2004 to confirm the story of 'apply'). And I did reinforce how much knowledge the OO research community has forgotten over the years.
>> Sadly, the reaction was surprisingly hostile from some corners in the room. One person was especially outspoken in arguing that we all know that we just need three or four special constructs -- and they may have to be map or for-each or such -- and we'd be in business. Given that it was a public exchange, it was difficult to point out to him how messed up his argument was.
>> While I have received many positive emails about the talk (my slides are on-line and people find them time and again), this message about PITCH deserves to be repeated and repeated and repeated for OO audiences. Let's keep going at it.
hota_mazionAug 14, 2016
Spring is considered to be an overloaded bloated mess and Java EE has become lean and mean with plenty of very capable specifications and implementations (JPA, CDI, etc...).
And FYI, the Design Patterns book came out before Java (1994 vs/ 1995) so I think you have your timelines confused. The early editions of Design Patterns didn't contain a single line of Java, they were mostly C++ (and some Smalltalk).
Java is twenty years old, and for such an old geezer, it's adapted remarkably well (and between Java 8 and Kotlin picking momentum, its legacy seems to be well assured).
daniellmbonMar 28, 2011
Here are a few I haven't read yet but are on my to read list.
munificentonJune 25, 2015
The Gang of Four didn't give us that. An army of OOP novices who were overwhelmed by all of the new choices and only skimmed Design Patterns gave us that.
If you actually read the book (which surprisingly few people have, given the number of people who have strong opinions about it), you'll see the Gang of Four are actually quite clear on the limitations or and ways to abuse the patterns.
afandianonFeb 5, 2019
It's like Design Patterns for human conversations: the result of studying how people interact, common patterns that work, and how things break down. Really crystallised a lot of insights I'd perceived but never thought about systematically. I highly recommend it.
Word of warning - there are a few books with this title. Look for the one by Douglas Stone, Bruce Patton, Sheila Heen.
Also Thinking Fast and Slow, recommended elsewhere in this thread.
jasodeonFeb 8, 2017
This is a misunderstanding of the DP book. It would be similar to saying that the existence of TVTropes.com is responsible for terrible scripts of tv shows and movies. Or, the existence of the Oxford English Dictionary is responsible for bad novels and useless documentation.
The DP book is a catalog (to gain awareness) and not a checklist (that you must do). It's a collection of observations about software structures out in the wild. It's not about prescription.
Even without the phrase "design patterns", it's easy to surmise that programmers out there are independently and unknowingly re-inventing the same higher-level structures (similar to tv tropes) but without giving them formal names. The DP book gives them formal names and hence, an attempt at shared vocabulary.
One can go to the amazon.com page for Design Patterns and click "Look inside" for the "First Pages" and see that the authors wanted to present a catalog: https://www.amazon.com/Design-Patterns-Elements-Reusable-Obj...
jasodeonAug 29, 2017
Fyi... "Design Patterns" in 1994 predates Java 1995.
Design patterns in some form have been around as long as computers have been around. Independent teams of programmers notice a repetition of code or a higher-level idea and they make it a convention. E.g. the "observer" pattern was something Smalltalk and Objective-C programmers did more than a decade before Java. Before "Design Patterns" became a meme/book, different teams used different vocabulary. Maybe they'd call it the "event watcher code convention" instead of "observer pattern". DP was a book of past practices gathered from the real world and it got everyone to converge on the same vocabulary to label what they were already doing.
phaedrusonApr 6, 2008
Using design patterns really helped me in a large project I did in C# two years ago - although I must admit I used the friendlier Head First Design Patterns as my reference rather than the original Design Patterns book.
I honestly think I would not have been able to do the project without the aid of design patterns. The project's architect was living too high in the clouds to grasp why his architectures were unimplementable, yet tried to micromanage the implementation as well. He continually specified implementation details which violated basic constraints of the language syntax and the static type system (like asking for multiple inheritance in C#). So I would use design patterns to get around a language limitation to do something close to what he wanted. Since he didn't understand design patterns, he found my explanation of how the design pattern accomplished the trick impenetrable enough to just leave it alone.
It backfired on me when he learned the Singleton pattern (which he kept mistakenly referring to as the "Simpleton" pattern), and started insisting that every object should be a "Simpleton".
Anyhow so the reason I didn't downmod you, is that I do think design patterns are useful, but they fix a problem which is partly that the language is broken, and partly a people problem.
AvalaxyonMar 3, 2013
- The information in books is complete. Tutorials on the web usually cover only a tiny fraction of everything there is to know about a specific technology. Tutorials often go deep into a specific part of the technology, or try to cover everything in a very shallow way. Books provide a thorough explanation of everything, nut just a tiny fraction.
- Books (if you make the right selection, I usually type "best [some technology] book" in google and read the suggestions on stackoverflow or other programming sites) are usually written by authoritative people in the industry. Very often by the author of the programming language that you're trying to learn. Not by some amateur who has some spare time and wants to write a blog post.
- It's much more pleasant to read long texts on paper than on a bright computer screen where you have to scroll all the time and cant place physical bookmarks.
As for your last question (what I read and can recommend):
Tech:
- Design patterns : elements of reusable object-oriented software
- Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture
- Code Complete 2
- Clean Code
- Pro ASP.NET MVC (if you're into MS stuff like me)
- Scrum and XP from the trenches
Marketing/business:
- Business model generation
- Purple Cow
- Permission marketing
- Rework
(how to do these line breaks correct?)
I didn't like SICP. I can handle boring books, but this one is pretty extreme.
edwinnathanielonDec 26, 2012
My alma-mater (UBC.ca), the CS Dept touches a few subjects:
- Design Patterns (still using GoF, which is probably not the right fit for 3rd year students)
- Refactoring (we do refer to Martin Fowler's book albeit we don't dig that deep)
- Barbara Liskov book (touches a few thing regarding type-systems and its relation with OOP, IN-OUT contract/verification, a bit more academic/formal but most of us saw her work in C# contracts, the L in SOLID principles, some of the OOP best practices probably).
hinkleyonMar 5, 2018
The patterns are loosely what to do, but that's not the thing that lasts across the years and languages. Refactoring is why and how.
wglbonSep 10, 2011
I would disagree that there are tons of Smalltalk examples there. There are in fact a few examples, and they actually don't weigh very much, because they are pretty small, and you don't really need the whole Design Patterns concept if you are a Smalltalk dude. I have a friend who first picked up the book after programming for 17 years in Smalltalk. He put it down after scanning through the first few chapters because it was very self-evident to him.
For young up-and-coming programmers, I recommend setting aside Design Patterns and reading everything you can find written by Peter Norvig. Start with his design patterns essay. The short version of which is that if you need design patterns, (in the sense of the book) then there is something lacking in your language. They are an unnecessarily.
I would never recommend Uncle Bob to anyone looking to improve programmming chops. Read Norvig instead. Uncle Bob came down on the wrong side of TDD and the fellow who failed to TDD his way into a sudoko solution. Peter Norvig comes up with a different notation, not a methodology, not a design pattern, and produced a very elegant solution.
So to improve your programming skills, avoid Uncle Bob, read Norvig, go easy on the methodology.
MachaonAug 7, 2011
* Lots of college courses, especially of the Java school variety simply do not cover anything remotely near low level code.
* For people looking to learn themselves, there are far fewer books and websites with resources than for other subjects. If I walk into my local book shop, there are books on Java, C++, C#, PHP (lots of PHP), Flash and Python. Then a few language agnostic books like Code Complete and Design Patterns (Stuff like this is lacking in quantity, but at least it's there). None on anything low level. There isn't even a x86 assembly for dummies type book there. The internet has free books for other languages too (Dive Into Python, Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby, etc..) and plenty of free resources on good functional programming or good OOP. For assembly, all I keep running into is a wikibook, which I'm rather skeptical about as they tend to pretty poor in my experience.
And then, once you've gone through the initial learning phase, how are you going to get any experience? For 95%+ of projects, it's a case of YAGNI. There aren't any interesting open source projects coded in assembly today. Maybe a few Linux drivers, but that's something that would need a lot of domain knowledge on top of low level knowledge to understand.
threepipeproblmonJune 30, 2017
http://mcmansionhell.com/post/161514422581/mmh-does-architec...
There are many such posts (explicitly theoretical/academic) in the site's history. More importantly, the day to day "McMansion" posts actually back up the theoretical concepts expressed in such posts. Much the way we programmers use both positive and negative examples of Design Patterns.
If you are not aware -- and it seems like you aren't -- the Design Patterns movement in software was inspired by an architecture book that did much the same thing -- showing patterns and anti-patterns -- just with less hipsterism, and more examples than counterexamples.
ScottWhighamonAug 31, 2009
1) You'll likely get better/more response if you prefix your post with "Ask HN: " (lots of folks have triggers for that type of thing)
2) You don't have to be a mathematician to be a good programmer. Tons of great programmers were not comp-sci majors so don't let that sort of thing get you down. If you've done "some basic noodling here and there... in a few languages" and you want to improve as a programmer, I'd advise you to:
At this point you're likely ready to spend a bunch of time reading non-domain specific books but, up until this point, the value you would receive from reading books not directly related to a specific language/task is debatable. Now that you've had some experience, I think this is a great time for books like:
(Those are all titles of books BTW)
Next up: build a startup!
Notice there are no math books in my list. This is different from what others would propose but, given the scant description you wrote, I don't see any need for math except to satisfy a possible desire to learn.
wistyonJuly 25, 2011
I'd like to see a lot more context with those principles. I'd like two examples - one which demonstrates why the principle is useful, and one that shows it going just a little too far.
Otherwise, these principles just create what artsy types call a "lens". It might help you reach an epiphany ("doh, I should have abstracted that bit - that's the word, abstraction, where did I hear that?"), but it also leads to the "Journeyman Programmer who just read Design Patterns and wants to make everything a Stratergy" phenomena (is that a Joel misquote?).
wheelsonAug 3, 2008
That's mostly what reading Design Patterns is good for. You learn names for things that you'll see over and over again that you can refer to them as when talking to other programmers and you learn to implement them more or less the standard way not because that's novel, but just because it then makes it easier for other people to understand what you've done.
On the other hand, it's easy to read -- like one day, and at that it's definitely worth it.
kenonMay 27, 2008
Compare Norvig (1998): "Design Patterns in Dylan or Lisp: 16 of 23 patterns are either invisible or simpler". http://norvig.com/design-patterns/
beatonDec 30, 2016
Antipatterns are on rather firmer academic ground than the guy at the airport barstool. Antipatterns are simply a negative version of design patterns. Design patterns in software started with the book Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object Oriented Software (aka Gang of Four or GoF), one of the greatest classic works in software engineering. GoF was itself based on the book A Pattern Language, by Christopher Alexander, a classic of the architectural field.
Alexander came up with the idea of a "pattern language" to describe patterns in architecture, a formal structure for observable phenomena. The GoF reused pattern language in a formal way to describe software patterns. Part of the pattern language describes how to implement the pattern. Antipatterns first appeared in the book Antipatterns: Refactoring Software, Architectures, and Projects in Crisis. Again, pattern language was used, including patterns for solving the problems caused by the antipattern.
So yes, this is rigorous. Not math-rigorous, but rigorous.
hwjonJuly 3, 2019
* APL: The Language and its Usage
* The Design an Evolution of C++
* The annotated C++ Reference Manual
* The Joy of Clojure
* Eiffel the Language
* Programming Erlang
* Forth (Salman et al.)
* Thinking Forth
* Introduction to Fortran
* The Little Schemer
* The Seasoned Schemer
* The Reasoned Schemer
* The Little MLer
* Programming in Lua
* Lucid, the Dataflow Programming Language
* Functional Programming in Scala
* Clause and Eiffel
* Scatchpad
* Smalltalk-80, The Interactive Programming Environment
* Smalltalk-80, Bits of History, Words of Advice
* The TeXbook
* The METAFONTbook
* TeX: The Program
* METAFONT: The program
* Viewpoint: Toward a computer for visual thinkers
* Visual Grammars for Visual Languages
* How to design programs (Felleisen et al.)
* Design Patterns (Gamma et al.)
* The art of the Metaobject Protocol
* Elements of Programming
* Concepts, techniques and models of computer programming
* Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
* Types and Programming Languages
* Essentials of Programming Languages
* Advanced compiler design and implementation (Muchnick)
* Introduction to Algorithms (Cormen et al.)
* Hacker's Delight
* Programming Pearls
* Coders at Work
* Computation: finite and infinite machines
* Purely functional data structures
* The space and motion of communication Agents
* Superdistribution
* A small matter of programming
* Basic Theory for Computer Scientists
saturnflyeronAug 14, 2012
Actually, people have visited, but few have stayed to read. My goal is to clarify the concept. I did plenty of research before writing this including asking Lieberman and others about it. I first wondered how everyone's notion could be wrong and doubted that my understanding was correct.
This is a term that others have attempted to clarify as well http://javalab.cs.uni-bonn.de/research/darwin/delegation.htm...
tptacekonMar 27, 2010
The original idea behind the "Design Patterns movement" was to provide a common language for describing recurring concepts in software design. It's the same idea behind Alexander's "A Pattern Language", which is something else you should read.
Nobody is arguing that describing things a little more rigorously is bad. But a lot of people have problems with the way "engineers" and "architects" abuse the pattern concept.
Alexander did not write a book that claimed you could build an entire city by picking out a "44. Local Town Hall" and mixing it with a "69. Public Outdoor Room". He had an idea, that the cart was dragging the horse in architecture, and attempted to use vocabulary to reframe the discussion about why specific choices were being made.
The Gang of Four introduced a minor corruption in that approach --- they had no fundamental thesis about how software should be designed, only a notion that there was folkloric knowledge that should be captured and named --- but their followers completed the corruption wholeheartedly. Instead of a language describing software, the GoF patterns became a perscription for building it.
And so we have Ruby code that includes a "singleton" module into classes, and SOAP4R code that includes "factory" classes (note again how ruby already transparently supports the abstract factory concept), and people argung that we should start "doing a little engineering" by pulling these clumsy ideas back off the shelf.
I can't argue this any better than Norvig can. In fact, I'll invoke him again by suggesting that you don't want to end up like Norvig's "opponent" in the sudoku-solving contet.
alaricsponAug 29, 2009
Once a bunch of people get religious, another bunch of people will crop up to get religious against them in turn.
I think design patterns are useful and valid; but I think they should be evaluated individually within the context of a given programming language, not necessarily considered global.
ajrossonAug 28, 2008
"First and foremost, by being the best damned Java or C++ programmer their management had ever seen. In 1996, I took three Java books on my honeymoon, and read them. [...] Every single night after work on my C++ contracts, I would read something from Design Patterns and Stroustrup."
Truly, the author is a paragon of development expertise. He reads books (books!) on Java and DP. He's even read the manual of his programming language! That's one 133+ h4x0r there, I tell you. I'm in awe.
kazinatoronJuly 24, 2017
When it does have the expressivity, the underlying rendering of the pattern hasn't gone away; just the manual boiler-plate for producing it.
For instance, if you're working in assembly language, then you might sometimes benefit from a "while loop design pattern" to keep your code clean. The while loop design pattern calls for some test code before a block which jumps past the block when the test is negative, and an unconditional backward branch at the end of the block back to that test expression.
The while loop doesn't go away when you use a higher level language. You just indicate that you would like that pattern, and the compiler spits it out for you, invisibly.
> Every time you pass a lambda to a higher order function you're using a strategy pattern.
Every time you pass a "naked" lambda somewhere, you're potentially missing the opportunity to have a macro there do that for you.
aw9994onMar 21, 2011
I recommend the Head First Design Patterns book if you're not turned off by the less-than serious nature of it. I really did not like the book at first glance, but after actually working through some of it as instructed I enjoyed it and really developed a solid understanding. Simple examples like Vending Machines and Washers really helped me, I still use them in my head when thinking about problems.
Design Patterns are not always the best solution and forcing them on problems can make things worse, but as far as teaching Java I really recommend it.
http://www.amazon.com/First-Design-Patterns-Elisabeth-Freema...
I also recommend learning about Test Driven Development as previously suggested, we use JUnit4 to teach our undergrads at my university. There are also other methods of testing besides TDD, but I feel it was the easiest to help students.
sha90onMar 27, 2010
But hey, I guess the Ruby stdlib includes the "Singleton" pattern for fun right? Not because you'd use it, or anything. Same with delegates. And I guess Rails didn't actually implement Martin Fowler's Active Record, Action Controller and MVC patterns? You just dreamed those.
Wake up. Your comment is painful and a little embarrassing. Design patterns are language independent. They are not implementation, they are descriptions. They can be used in any language, and they are used in Ruby.
mirekrusinonAug 19, 2016
How does it relate to design patterns? Does it say not to use them? Absolutely not. It says the opposite, if anything - to recognise patterns in your code. "Design patterns" is just an idea that if you see your patterns repeating themselves (some of your macros tend to be very similar in different projects) then you should give it a name. This way when you explain system to your colleagues it's easier to communicate.
kevasonJuly 13, 2018
1. Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets by John Murphy
2. Options as a Strategic Investment by Lawrence G. McMillan
3. [just finished] The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right By Atul Gawande
4. [finished last week] Dealers of Lightning by Michael A. Hiltzik
5. [currently working on] Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software By GOF
6. [currently working on] Dan Appleman's Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to the Win32 API by Dan Appleman
7. [next on the list] Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed by Ben Rich, Leo Janos
raganwaldonDec 23, 2007
I write programs with Design Patterns, I catalogue new ones from my work, I use them to teach and communicate. "A Pattern Language" is one of my favourite books.
What did I say? Well, I quoted someone else telling a story about their experience:
http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/12/newly-discovered-design-...
I thought it was a good story because it illustrated two different mind sets when it comes to writing programs and what happens when they come into contact with each other. There's no preachy conclusion, it's a human interest story.
I also talked about a particular cultural approach in this post:
http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/12/pouring-water-back-into-...
There, I expressed opposition to the idea of a fixed set of standard patterns.
So, now you know what I was saying.
duweaseonNov 11, 2013
God forbid I needed to add a single boolean field to a single screen. By the time I submitted the DB change request, then changed the abstract factory interface, then the abstract factory class, then the factory interface that generated, then the factory class, then the abstract DAO interface that generated, then the abstract DAO class, then the parent DAO interface, then the parent DAO class... pauses to catch breath ...then the child DAO interface, then the child DAO class, then the controller object interface, then the controller class, then the actual page, then the unit test, it was 4AM and time to go to sleep.
Let this be a cautionary tale to any future architects out there.. remember that flexibility is a MEANS, with the ends being less time and money spent coding and maintaining code. It's not an ends to itself, and can even be a hindrance to the ends.
bigtunacanonJuly 8, 2014
There are several other books that have tried to explain the GoF's Design Patterns in either an easier to approach manner, or in the context of a specific language they have tried to explain where new design patterns have emerged or the original patterns had mutated.
A couple of those worth checking out are
"Head First Design Patterns"
http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Design-Patterns-Freeman/dp/...
"Design Patterns In Ruby"
http://www.amazon.com/Design-Patterns-Ruby-Russ-Olsen/dp/032...
"Learning JavaScript Design Patterns"
http://www.amazon.com/Learning-JavaScript-Design-Patterns-Os...
scott_sonAug 22, 2009
Since I've never programmed in a language with structural pattern matching, I welcome others to compare my solution to what was presented. Clearly, structural pattern matching requires less code. Also, I've never actually read the Design Patterns book, but I think what I have above is different from the Interpreter and Visitor pattern he described in the article - for one, I don't have any mutation. But, again, please correct me if I'm wrong.
adolgertonNov 27, 2010
Stroustrup's _The C++ Programming Language_, twice in a row, because I didn't want to be left out for not having taken Computer Science.
Butelhof's _Programming with Posix Threads_, because another book referenced its explanation of why Win32 threading had a bug because it could not, at the time, signal and wait on a mutex in an atomic way. There was something deep to find in those rowboats and bucket stories.
GoF's _Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software_, because when I complained to a mentor that I was struggling to organize a dozen scientist programmers, he handed it to me, laughing.
John Robbins, _Debugging Applications_, first edition, because it was the first time for me that code didn't have the disclaimer, "of course you should insert error-handling code here." Basic x86 assembly in one chapter!
nimchimpskyonDec 15, 2016
And here's me writing code that creates csv files, that get copied from one server to another server (on another continent) - without anyone reading them.